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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322332 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Then users should perhaps look for better fonts. I'm quite > astonished to hear that free fonts on free systems do so much worse a > job than MS-Windows. I have hard time believing that. Since they are sufficient, Microsoft's excess is not the standard by which to set Emacs's expectations. (Which expectations must not be set by proprietary fonts in any event.) >> > And I don't understand why you say these characters are Kana, this >> > page disagrees: >> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangxi_radical >> >> That's U+2E90. U+3300 is Kana, according to Scripts.txt: >> >> 3300..3357 ; Katakana # So [88] SQUARE APAATO..SQUARE WATTO > > That's just one block out of 4 that you mentioned. The remainder are, as I said, radicals or obsolete, which are not to be found in real documents and many perfectly serviceable fonts. > And if we want to treat that as Kana, we should change > admin/blocks.awk first. Its not being treated as Kana is a bug in blocks.awk, so this is a forgone conclusion. Regardless, this character should be deleted from script-representative-chars, because on my system it is provided by: xfthb:-ADBO-Noto Sans CJK JP-regular-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x889) which is not the proper regional variant of Noto Sans (or Serif) CJK for Chinese text.