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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	 ali_gnu2@emvision.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Solaris dldump
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 19:57:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cym4hgil.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plq4enze.fsf@protonmail.com> (Pip Cet's message of "Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:44:27 +0000")

Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com> writes:

> Wait, I'm not sure I understand that part.  How does removing pure space
> burden anyone with additional labor, hypothetical or not?

Isn't this theoretical burden the reason that pure space is not to be
removed except along with unexec?

> Also, do the systems that don't support pdumper but do support unexec
> work without dumping, when running temacs directly? It takes very long
> to build Emacs that way, but since we're talking non-free operating
> systems it might be acceptable to ask people to cross-compile for now,
> kind of like we do for the Android builds where the .elc files are
> generated on the build systems.

There is a substantial segment of our users who don't expect Emacs to
start in 5+ seconds, if only judging by the hullabaloo that erupts
whenever startup performance is threatened or even mildly retarded.
Even in the Android port, this penalty is paid once on installation and
a dump file is retained for subsequent initializations of the same
binary.

Anyway, I want pure space gone as much as any of us, I just don't agree
that taking unexec down with it is justified.  Maybe the ELF, XCOFF, and
Windows unexecs, but not the Solaris or DOS ones.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-19 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.39.1723910423.12184.emacs-devel@gnu.org>
2024-08-17 22:49 ` Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 246, Issue 17 ali_gnu2
2024-08-18  0:10   ` Po Lu
2024-08-18  0:19     ` Po Lu
2024-08-18  1:15     ` Solaris dldump (was: Pure space) ali_gnu2
2024-08-18  1:25       ` Solaris dldump Po Lu
2024-08-18 22:27         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-08-18 23:56           ` Po Lu
2024-08-19 11:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 12:09               ` Po Lu
2024-08-19 12:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 11:44             ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 11:57               ` Po Lu [this message]
2024-08-19 12:10                 ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 12:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 13:46                     ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 14:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 15:26                         ` Corwin Brust
2024-08-19 15:31                           ` Corwin Brust
2024-08-19 20:51                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-08-19 20:35             ` Stefan Kangas

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