From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, jonas@bernoul.li, samologist@gmail.com,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, karthikchikmagalur@gmail.com,
visuweshm@gmail.com, raman@google.com
Subject: Re: Alternative defaults for visually impaired users? (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?))
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 18:17:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyhj7faz.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86y1076h23.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> ... I meant support and maintenance in Emacs
>> core. IMHO, these features are too important for third-party package that
>> might be abandoned.
>> ...
>
> We do want to have accessibility features in Emacs, if that is what
> you are asking. (In some cases we already do: e.g., see the
> Windows-specific variable w32-use-visible-system-caret, which aims
> specifically at aiding screen-reading software.)
Thanks for the clarification. Then, let me expand on the idea I have.
I imagine adding "alternative" default value to `defcustom':
(defcustom variable default-value
:alt-default
(("blind" . value2)
("large-fonts" . value3))
...)
Then, consider custom options like
(defcustom accessibility-blind nil
"When non-nil, Emacs will use defaults suitable for blind users.")
(defcustom accessibility-large-fonts nil
"When non-nil, Emacs will use defaults suitable for large font sizes.")
If any of the above options is non-nil, and custom variable has its
default value (not changed by user explicitly), instead of
"default-value" a suitable alternative value is used.
Third-party packages will also be able to make use of this semantics,
providing better defaults if necessary.
Elisp manual should also encourage package authors to keep these
alternatives in mind.
WDYT?
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-22 18:17 UTC|newest]
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2024-09-14 12:36 Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu? Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-15 14:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-17 12:18 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-22 12:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-24 10:07 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-12 17:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-22 7:23 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-22 17:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-24 14:18 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-24 17:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-26 11:45 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-27 8:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-27 9:17 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29 4:58 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29 18:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-30 5:37 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-30 18:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 18:55 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-31 19:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 20:47 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01 8:27 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01 17:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 19:04 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-02 19:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 21:37 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-03 7:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-05 10:07 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-09 14:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-10 16:33 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-10 16:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-11 10:03 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-11 15:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-12 9:26 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-12 18:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2024-11-17 9:30 ` Fwd: " Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-23 16:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-25 17:49 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-10 19:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-11 9:57 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-11 10:05 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-13 18:41 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:09 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14 9:57 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 10:59 ` Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:57 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 9:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 14:30 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 1:16 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Panayotis Manganaris
2024-12-14 10:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 21:20 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-16 17:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-17 2:08 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17 2:24 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17 18:04 ` Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-18 7:19 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:52 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-19 1:42 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-19 1:50 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 17:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-19 1:48 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-19 18:04 ` [FR] Allow SPC to scroll todo/tag selection menu - for users with huge accessible fonts (was: Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?))) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-20 6:55 ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:47 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-19 17:42 ` Internal variables and symbols in transient (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-19 18:11 ` Alternative defaults for visually impaired users? " Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 4:49 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-22 9:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 18:17 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-12-22 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 10:50 ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? indieterminacy
2024-12-14 17:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-15 9:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-16 7:46 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-16 18:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 12:16 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-15 18:23 ` Kierin Bell
2024-12-17 17:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
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