From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs vs vs.net Date: 29 Oct 2003 18:27:23 +1100 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87brs0sdus.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> References: <3f9f2256$1@news.microsoft.com> Reply-To: timx@spamto.devnul.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067411975 15098 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 07:19:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 08:19:33 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEkc9-0002mp-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:19:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEkZL-0006Y2-RX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 02:16:39 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp121-34.lns1.syd2.internode.on.net Original-X-Trace: duster.adelaide.on.net 1067411413 ppp121-34.lns1.syd2.internode.on.net (29 Oct 2003 17:40:13 +1050) Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!not-for-mail Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:117669 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13601 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13601 >>>>> "William" == William Shieh writes: William> hi, i'm very new to email and the system i'm using most of William> the time is win32. could someone give me some example why William> emacs is so powerful? from what i could see is that it takes William> more key to do a simple copy and paste than notepad. i know William> notepad is probably not a good example, however, can anyone William> give me a good reason why you use emacs instead of vs.net William> from ms? Don't know what vs.net is, but I avoid MS based mail clients simply to avoid virus problems. Most people go for emacs because, rather than having to adjust how you want to do things to fit with the software, emacs makes it easy to adjust the software to work the way you want. I also hate using a mouse as I find it slower than using keyboard shortcuts. To mark a region, copy and past, you simply move to the beginning of the region, hit ctrl-space move to the end of the region, hit alt-w (for copy) or ctl-w (to cut), move to where you want to paste and hit ctl-y. Add in the shortcuts to move by word/sentence/sexp/paragraph etc and moving from begining of the region to the end is quick and easy. If you don't like alt-w/ctl-w ctl-y etc, you can re-bind them. The power of emacs is in the reference to it being an "extensible" editor - e.g. you can pretty much add whatever functionality you have the imagination to create (via elisp etc). In practice, you can get by with very little elisp skill as more often than not, the feature you want has already been created by someone else and made available on the net. Tim -- Tim Cross The e-mail address on this message is FALSE (obviously!). My real e-mail is to a company in Australia called rapttech and my login is tcross - if you really need to send mail, you should be able to work it out!