From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to Texinfo DTD Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:22:56 +0200 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87brr1konj.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <8765heixvu.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <87ptfkdqss.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <20031122214251.GA14680@fencepost> <874qwuqjzw.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311241619.hAOGJ6W27027@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069738315 31593 80.91.224.253 (25 Nov 2003 05:31:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 25 06:31:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOVnl-0004Za-00 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:31:53 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOVnk-0004ZN-00 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:31:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AOWjK-0005FQ-8l for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:31:22 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AOWjF-0005EY-Kg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:31:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AOWii-00051k-95 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:31:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.246.52.22] (helo=ns5.tangramltd.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AOWih-00050X-67 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:30:43 -0500 Original-Received: from 80-235-39-234-dsl.mus.estpak.ee ([80.235.39.234] helo=mail.jurta.org) by ns5.tangramltd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOVl1-0000P2-3q; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:29:03 +0200 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200311241619.hAOGJ6W27027@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:19:06 -0600 (CST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns5.tangramltd.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jurta.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18101 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18101 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Juri Linkov wrote: > This will solve the current problem in Info files, where some lines > change their length after hiding a part of reference. In XML all > additional information can be freely included into tag attributes > without affecting the filling of plain text. For example, > Menu Keymaps. > > I hope it will also solve the other problem with the current situation > in Emacs with Info-hide-note-references set to t. Namely, in the > above example, it would just print "Menu Keymaps" without any > indication that this is going to carry you out of the manual you are > reading into the Elisp manual. The same is true for web browsers too. They display only a link title without URL in the text area. But when you move the mouse pointer over a link, the browser displays the URL in the status bar. Emacs Info currently works in the same way: it puts the help-echo text property on a reference, so you can see the full address in the echo area after moving mouse over a reference. BTW, recently there was a discussion on the emacs-devel list about displaying help-echo in the echo area after point movements over a text property. What was the decision? This could be useful for Info buffers too, i.e. when point moves to a reference with help-echo text property, then Emacs could display the full address in the echo area. -- http://www.jurta.org/emacs/