From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beamer, pdflatex and auctex Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:01:15 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87bqo73lf8.fsf@hans.local.net> References: <85vemtxh7m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85fydpkyvx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85lkngk8ql.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85lkngdj57.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <853b9lxfg2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <857iywpxs9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161363230 1033 80.91.229.2 (20 Oct 2006 16:53:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 20 18:53:48 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gaxcu-000250-6W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:53:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gaxct-0000AA-Nl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:53:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GahpR-0003qs-4w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:01:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GahpO-0003jZ-CI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:01:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GahpO-0003jA-0S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:01:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.186] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GahpJ-0004f0-Rx; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:01:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.35.79] (helo=duenenhof-wilhelm.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1GahpE0Njn-0007jB; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:01:24 +0200 Original-Received: by duenenhof-wilhelm.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 721AD756D8; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:01:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <857iywpxs9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu\, 19 Oct 2006 09\:31\:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:d7ab225b98a136e1c2910381f940ecb9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38142 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Dieter Wilhelm writes: > >> There is an Emacs mode out there for the Finite Element Analysis (FEA) >> program Ansys, the file is called ansys-mode.el and there it's >> written: >> >> ;;; Copyright (C) 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> >> ;; Author: Tim Read >> ;; Author: Geoff Foster >> ;; Maintainer: Tim Read >> >> So it looks to me that they at least intended to give the copyright >> to the FSF. > > Not necessarily. They could have copied some original file from which > they started. Whatever they intended, without them giving the FSF a > legally binding assignment and the FSF _accepting_ the copyright, this > comment is simply wrong. They mentioned octave-mode as their basis ;; Copyright (C) 1997, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 ;; Free Software Foundation, Inc. ;; Author: Kurt Hornik ;; Author: John Eaton ;; Maintainer: Kurt Hornik > But the question is whether it makes a difference to you. It would if > you wanted to contribute the code you develop from there back to the When the code will be accepted, I would be proud to contribute. So, yes, it makes a difference to me. > FSF, or if you trust the FSF to behave more reasonably about license > enforcement than the authors. Or it makes a difference when I trust the FSF more about the enforcement. Sorry, I do not understand. > > But other than that, you can hardly be expected to carry out diligent > research about what the above listed authors actually did in regard of > paperwork or not. Well I twice tried to contact them via email, but I'm not so sure what you want to tell me with this sentence. Shall I behave as if they did not permit to use the code and rewrite every single line? -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany