From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:01:47 -0700 Message-ID: <87bqf8quxg.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182499375 3884 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2007 08:02:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Hacksaw , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sascha Wilde Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 10:02:52 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1e6U-0007th-WA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:02:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1e6U-0007I4-Dd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:02:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1e5f-0006yt-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:02:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1e5e-0006y7-Ns for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1e5e-0006y1-KW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.193.61]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1e5e-0002AY-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:01:58 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44143 ident=kfogel) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I1e5U-0007Cr-5f; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:01:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Sascha Wilde's message of "Fri\, 22 Jun 2007 09\:57\:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73590 Archived-At: Sascha Wilde writes: > I strongly object to (b) as it is against the idea behind *scratch*. > I could live with (a) given that: > > 1. The new default buffer is not called *scratch* > 2. *scratch* will be still available after starting Emacs (though not > being switched to by default) Sure, sounds good. Nearly everyone seems okay with that solution. Not sure when I'll actually have time to *do* it, but maybe someone else will beat me to it... > 3. The old behavior could be easily restored by setting > i-am-an-old-school-hacker-and-want-my-scratch-buffer-back to t (or > something like that). ;-) Well, hackers don't need help with that; you have the source code :-). -Karl