From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:11:03 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87bqd744yp.fsf@jurta.org> References: <35917.128.165.123.18.1185998078.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <85vebzq7vd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87odhqethv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87zm18v7ug.fsf@jurta.org> <85abt7kck1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcndc3zc.fsf@jurta.org> <87643pbqjq.fsf@jurta.org> <85643ppor9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sl6sbjaw.fsf@jurta.org> <87fy2oms2y.fsf@jurta.org> <85sl6o3rj1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <873aykml2v.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187295401 15233 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2007 20:16:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 16 22:16:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ILllm-0002E2-Eu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:16:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ILlll-0005jK-Rb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:16:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ILlli-0005fw-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:16:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ILllf-0005f1-M3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:16:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ILllf-0005ey-D4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:16:31 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ILllW-00033I-PU; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ILllL-000G2U-I9; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:16:19 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed\, 15 Aug 2007 20\:59\:14 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: e35cef5ed21d82303c208435479e4a86 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1389 [August 15 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76639 Archived-At: > It looks like a very nice feature. Some quick comments: > > 1. This is about the non-fancy splash screen only. In the initial > splash screen (the one that appears after emacs starts), the links > work. But if I later on choose Help->About Emacs, the links don't > work; I guess since any action makes the splash screen disappear. Hmm, links work in `fancy-splash-screens' (started from Help->About Emacs), but don't work in `normal-splash-screen'. I think we should make this screen more persistent, so only special keys (`q' and `SPC') make it disappear. > 2. In the fancy splash screen, the text continues to cycle when the > mouse is over a link. This means that one can have the mouse over > the "Tutorial" link, but before one can press it the text cycles so > that "Exit Emacs" is under the cursor. Ouch. Is there a way to > disable the text cycling while the mouse is over a link? The automatic text cycling is too annoying in all regards: even if the user doesn't finish reading one screen, it jumps to another. I think we should replace this with tabs where clicking on them switches to another screen. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/