From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: saveplace: don't ask for coding system Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:23:17 -0800 Message-ID: <87bq98n0ka.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <198E2B70-D060-41D8-8BC2-A9614C2729CC@inf.ed.ac.uk> <06675819-C4A8-4D78-AD59-0A2AF296AC7E@inf.ed.ac.uk> <87ve7gn5zc.fsf@red-bean.com> <0CD94276-1D9F-42BB-A6F7-A90ED9E06817@inf.ed.ac.uk> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196637819 1727 80.91.229.12 (2 Dec 2007 23:23:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 23:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , emacs-devel To: David Reitter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 00:23:47 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IyyA2-0001wn-IU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:23:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyy9m-0003Co-8C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:23:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyy9j-0003Cf-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:23:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyy9g-0003CT-C7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:23:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyy9g-0003CQ-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:23:20 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.193.61]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iyy9g-0000sU-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:23:20 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45841) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Iyy9d-0005EE-H9; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:23:17 -0600 In-Reply-To: <0CD94276-1D9F-42BB-A6F7-A90ED9E06817@inf.ed.ac.uk> (David Reitter's message of "Sun\, 2 Dec 2007 21\:31\:32 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84516 Archived-At: David Reitter writes: >> Offer option for saveplace to be quiet about loading and saving. >> Suggested by: David Reitter > > That is not what I suggested. I wanted a global customization option > that would allow users to specify a "log level", and a change to > message' to take the log level into account. > > It is overkill to add countless extra options to every package to make > it shut up. You're not doing users a favor. Yeah, I kind of agree -- already on your side, really :-). The best strategy would be to start a separate thread, to figure out what the log-level (or message-level, whatever) variable should be called, where it should be defined, and -- most importantly -- what the various verbosity levels should be. If you would like to initiate that thread and drive the discussion, we can probably get that settled reasonably quickly. Then I'll switch saveplace (and other packages I help maintain) to use the new system. If you don't have time to do that, please say so, and I'll try to take care of it. (Perhaps I shouldn't have committed the current change to saveplace first, but I wanted to leave markers for where the new code should be hooked in.) > Are you committing changes to 22.x? The save-place file coding seems > like a bug to me and I would welcome a fix for it in the 22 branch as > well. Sure, I can port the coding-system change over to the EMACS_22_BASE branch (I'm assuming that's the right one; it's sometimes hard to tell what branches serve what purposes here). -Karl