From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johannes Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:54:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87bpzy44b2.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> References: <663766.3592561218546669709.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218556516 4165 80.91.229.12 (12 Aug 2008 15:55:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: alinsoar@voila.fr, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 17:56:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KSwE3-0002Da-WB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:56:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60802 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSwD7-0001Sh-6A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSwD3-0001RR-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:54:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KSwD1-0001Qx-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:54:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36103 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSwD1-0001Qr-O5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:54:55 -0400 Original-Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:35946) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSwD0-0004hR-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:54:55 -0400 Original-Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) id 312CE2F00CA; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:54:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (83-221-69-159.dynamic.primacom.net [83.221.69.159]) by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0402F00C4; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:54:48 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:20:57 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102346 Archived-At: Hi, "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 15:11, A Soare wrote: > >> Emacs and Linux is used just by peuple that wants to understand how things work. >> >> Windows is used by peuple that want to gain money and to arrive quiqkly at their purpose. > > Yeah, sure, of course. There are exceptions and blaming it on money only is not right. >From my experience, I don't know anyone personally(!) who has found his way around in Linux and switched back to Windows after it. I know that there are exceptions, but these people seem to be rare. And these few people who switched back to Windows had no means to understand how things work. In fact, I had even more understanding of their Windows than they had themselves, just because they didn't care. Despite the fact that I have not used Windows myself for over 6 years now. So, my impression is, that most Windows users really have no intention to learn how their tools work. And they are not interested in optimizing their workflow. Again, there are exceptions. I *know* there are people who know both worlds and still are fine with working on Windows. I suspect you, Juanma, and Eli Zaretskii are such persons, please correct me if I am wrong. But the bulk of people behaves like I described, I think. Hannes