* bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser @ 2008-08-16 20:44 ` xah lee 2008-08-17 8:00 ` bug#732: marked as done (w3m shows different results than Firefox browser) Emacs bug Tracking System [not found] ` <handler.732.D732.121895950317862.notifdone@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: xah lee @ 2008-08-16 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bug-gnu-emacs This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced 100%. Summary: The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on cookies) but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted this phrase. --------- GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp The w3m mode i'm using is: emacs-w3m-1.4.4 Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.11 configured using `configure '--prefix=/Applications/Emacs.app/ Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=/ Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=-Os -arch i386 -arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI - DUSE_MAC_TSM'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: encoded-kbd-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t recentf-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t ☄ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* bug#732: marked as done (w3m shows different results than Firefox browser) 2008-08-16 20:44 ` bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser xah lee @ 2008-08-17 8:00 ` Emacs bug Tracking System [not found] ` <handler.732.D732.121895950317862.notifdone@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Emacs bug Tracking System @ 2008-08-17 8:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sven Joachim [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 859 bytes --] Your message dated Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:51:30 +0200 with message-id <87iqu0cc59.fsf@gmx.de> and subject line Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser has caused the Emacs bug report #732, regarding w3m shows different results than Firefox browser to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact don@donarmstrong.com immediately.) -- 732: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact don@donarmstrong.com with problems [-- Attachment #2: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 4446 bytes --] From: xah lee <xah@xahlee.org> To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:44:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD13B03-7260-4F26-87B7-C9D58C43D1DE@xahlee.org> This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced 100%. Summary: The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on cookies) but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted this phrase. --------- GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp The w3m mode i'm using is: emacs-w3m-1.4.4 Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.11 configured using `configure '--prefix=/Applications/Emacs.app/ Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=/ Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=-Os -arch i386 -arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI - DUSE_MAC_TSM'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: encoded-kbd-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t recentf-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t ☄ [-- Attachment #3: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 2615 bytes --] From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> To: xah lee <xah@xahlee.org> Cc: 732-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:51:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87iqu0cc59.fsf@gmx.de> On 2008-08-16 22:44 +0200, xah lee wrote: > This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced > 100%. > > Summary: > The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems > to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. > > To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% > 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 > > standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html > > Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies > turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on cookies) > > but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted > this phrase. This is PEBKAC, just remove the %22 quotation marks. With them, the above URL shows only one result in any browser I've tried, including Firefox and Konqueror; without them, w3m and other browsers show many results. Fortunately, Google does not seem to discriminate "non-standard" browsers yet. Sven ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* bug#732: closed by Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> (Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser) [not found] ` <handler.732.D732.121895950317862.notifdone@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> @ 2008-08-17 20:22 ` xah lee [not found] ` <mailman.16957.1219006053.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: xah lee @ 2008-08-17 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 732 Thanks. for what's worth, here's what i've found: In OSX 10.4.11, in Safari, Opera, Firefox (all latest public version), when this line is pasted into the url field: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 they all return mulitple results with the following line on top: «Information No results found for "The computer wizards at Industrial Light and Magic help alchemize". Results for The computer wizards at Industrial Light and Magic help alchemize (without quotes):» in w3m and icab, they give just 1 result using the exact phrase as it should. So, perhaps some how when google search automatically switch to a non- exact-phrase search when the exact-phrase search got only one result? But this couldn't be because FF and Opera in linux apparantly return just 1 result from exact phrase search too. prob nothing to do with emacs then... but a browser/web oddity... Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ On Aug 17, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Emacs bug Tracking System wrote: This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser It has been closed by Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>. Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> by replying to this email. -- 732: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact don@donarmstrong.com with problems From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> Date: August 17, 2008 12:51:30 AM PDT To: xah lee <xah@xahlee.org> Cc: 732-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser On 2008-08-16 22:44 +0200, xah lee wrote: > This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced > 100%. > > Summary: > The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems > to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. > > To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% > 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 > > standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag > article: > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html > > Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies > turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on cookies) > > but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted > this phrase. This is PEBKAC, just remove the %22 quotation marks. With them, the above URL shows only one result in any browser I've tried, including Firefox and Konqueror; without them, w3m and other browsers show many results. Fortunately, Google does not seem to discriminate "non-standard" browsers yet. Sven From: xah lee <xah@xahlee.org> Date: August 16, 2008 1:44:42 PM PDT To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser This appears to be a w3m bug or the w3m-mode bug and can be reproduced 100%. Summary: The results from using Opera, Safari, Firefox, in google search seems to differ from results shown in w3m, for certain url string. To test, try this url in Firefox and w3m/emacs: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 standard browsers shows many results, top one is this time mag article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981238-1,00.html Safari, Firefox, Opera seems show identical results. (some has cookies turned on, some not, so this search shouldn't depends on cookies) but in w3m it just shows one vocabulary page on my website that quoted this phrase. --------- GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp The w3m mode i'm using is: emacs-w3m-1.4.4 Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2008-04-05 on g5.tokyo.stp.isas.jaxa.jp Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.4.11 configured using `configure '--prefix=/Applications/Emacs.app/ Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=/ Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=-Os -arch i386 -arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI - DUSE_MAC_TSM'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: encoded-kbd-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t recentf-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t ☄ ☄ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* bug#732: closed by Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> (Re: bug#732: w3m shows different results than Firefox browser) [not found] ` <mailman.16957.1219006053.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2008-08-17 21:15 ` Sven Joachim 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Sven Joachim @ 2008-08-17 21:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: xah lee; +Cc: 732 On 2008-08-17 22:22 +0200, xah lee wrote: > for what's worth, here's what i've found: > > In OSX 10.4.11, in Safari, Opera, Firefox (all latest public version), > when this line is pasted into the url field: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The%20computer%20wizards%20at% > 20Industrial%20Light%20and%20Magic%20help%20alchemize%22 > > they all return mulitple results with the following line on top: > > «Information No results found for "The computer wizards at Industrial > Light and Magic help alchemize". > > Results for The computer wizards at Industrial Light and Magic help > alchemize (without quotes):» > > in w3m and icab, they give just 1 result using the exact phrase as it > should. This might be dependent on your language settings. When I set English as preferred language for Google results in Firefox, I get different results than with the default German. Go figure... > So, perhaps some how when google search automatically switch to a non- > exact-phrase search when the exact-phrase search got only one result? No, only when there are _zero_ results. > prob nothing to do with emacs then... but a browser/web oddity... Exactly. Cheers, Sven ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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