From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: schwab@suse.de, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Word syntax question
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:11:20 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bpxdtjc7.fsf@xemacs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8763nl1m41.fsf@catnip.gol.com>
Miles Bader writes:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >> > See char-script-table, forward-word also stops at a script boundary.
> >>
> >> That seems kind of broken in this case -- it's quite common for
> >> "phonetic" characters to be intermixed in a word with latin characters,
> >> and certainly nobody thinks of those boundaries as being word
> >> boundaries.
> >
> > I agree. I think we should introduce a user option to control whether
> > it stops on script boundaries or not, because sometimes it makes
> > sense, sometimes it doesn't.
>
> But a global setting seems far too course, and in general, whether it's
> "right" or not seems like it depends more on the precise mixture of
> scripts rather than a user's personal preferences.
AFAIK Unicode has solved this problem, but I forget where I saw it.
If my memory is correct, that supports Miles's opinion.
In general, I think that if the scripts are for different human
languages, it's almost always the case that a script boundary is a
word boundary. (But I'm biased, because I deal with that daily in
ordinary Japanese text, where that is the case.) If one script is not
language-specific (IPA is really the only one I can think of), it's
not. Note that for something like Japanese which has three separate
scripts (hiragana, katakana, and kanji) which are separately
standardized (JIS X 0201 for katakana, and JIS X 0213 for the others)
this care for different scripts, same language already needs to be made.
So it seems to me that an exceptional case for IPA (make it a member
of all language groups, or perhaps of those that use the Latin
alphabet?) should be sufficient.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-22 3:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 15:20 Word syntax question Miles Bader
2008-10-21 15:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-10-21 16:35 ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 0:58 ` Miles Bader
2008-10-22 3:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-10-22 11:52 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22 12:23 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22 4:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 5:16 ` Miles Bader
2008-10-22 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 21:02 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22 6:20 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-23 3:09 ` Richard M. Stallman
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