* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? [not found] <mailman.3539.1248999408.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2009-07-31 0:33 ` Rafael 2009-07-31 7:51 ` n179911 [not found] ` <mailman.3561.1249026712.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Rafael @ 2009-07-31 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs n179911 <n179911@gmail.com> writes: > And in my ~/bin/emacslib, I have > > $ ls > icicles-chg.el icicles-doc1.el icicles-fn.el icicles-mode.el icicles.el > icicles-cmd1.el icicles-doc2.el icicles-mac.el icicles-opt.el > icicles-cmd2.el icicles-face.el icicles-mcmd.el icicles-var.el > > Can you please tell me how can I speed up emacs startup time? Is there > anyway to compile the .el. files so that emacs can come up faster? This is what I would do: In a dired buffer of the ~/bin/emacslib directory, mark the .el files with 'M' and then byte-compile them with 'B'. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? 2009-07-31 0:33 ` How to speed up emacs start time? Rafael @ 2009-07-31 7:51 ` n179911 2009-07-31 8:11 ` Jonatan Andersson ` (2 more replies) [not found] ` <mailman.3561.1249026712.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: n179911 @ 2009-07-31 7:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rafael; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Thank you. Emacs 23.1 on Mac OSX works. But when I start emacs at terminal (instead of running Emacs.app), emacs (in /usr/bin/emacs version 22) complains that the .elc are compiled for version 23. Can you please tell me what can I do to fix this? Thank you. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rafael<rvf0068@gmail.com> wrote: > n179911 <n179911@gmail.com> writes: > >> And in my ~/bin/emacslib, I have >> >> $ ls >> icicles-chg.el icicles-doc1.el icicles-fn.el icicles-mode.el icicles.el >> icicles-cmd1.el icicles-doc2.el icicles-mac.el icicles-opt.el >> icicles-cmd2.el icicles-face.el icicles-mcmd.el icicles-var.el >> >> Can you please tell me how can I speed up emacs startup time? Is there >> anyway to compile the .el. files so that emacs can come up faster? > > This is what I would do: In a dired buffer of the ~/bin/emacslib > directory, mark the .el files with 'M' and then byte-compile them with > 'B'. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? 2009-07-31 7:51 ` n179911 @ 2009-07-31 8:11 ` Jonatan Andersson 2009-07-31 8:29 ` X fonts handling in 23.1 Dmitry Antipov [not found] ` <mailman.3580.1249050271.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jonatan Andersson @ 2009-07-31 8:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Hi, Having two different version of any program installed is a sure way to go mad. I would suggest that you remove /usr/bin/emacs from the system (and emacslient et al) , and add the path to the Emacs 23.1 binary. I have first in my PATH variable the /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/:/ usr/bin: in my With kindest regards Jonatan Andersson On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:51 AM, n179911 wrote: > Thank you. Emacs 23.1 on Mac OSX works. > But when I start emacs at terminal (instead of running Emacs.app), > emacs (in /usr/bin/emacs version 22) complains that the .elc are > compiled for version 23. > > Can you please tell me what can I do to fix this? > > Thank you. > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rafael<rvf0068@gmail.com> wrote: >> n179911 <n179911@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> And in my ~/bin/emacslib, I have >>> >>> $ ls >>> icicles-chg.el icicles-doc1.el icicles-fn.el icicles- >>> mode.el icicles.el >>> icicles-cmd1.el icicles-doc2.el icicles-mac.el icicles-opt.el >>> icicles-cmd2.el icicles-face.el icicles-mcmd.el icicles-var.el >>> >>> Can you please tell me how can I speed up emacs startup time? Is >>> there >>> anyway to compile the .el. files so that emacs can come up faster? >> >> This is what I would do: In a dired buffer of the ~/bin/emacslib >> directory, mark the .el files with 'M' and then byte-compile them >> with >> 'B'. >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* X fonts handling in 23.1 2009-07-31 7:51 ` n179911 2009-07-31 8:11 ` Jonatan Andersson @ 2009-07-31 8:29 ` Dmitry Antipov [not found] ` <mailman.3580.1249050271.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Antipov @ 2009-07-31 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Hello all, my ~/.Xdefaults contains: Emacs*font: -misc-* And 22.3 starts with the expected font. But 23.1 doesn't. Moreover, I can start 22.3 with '-fn fixed' and then do (set-frame-font "-misc-*"), and it toggles the font as expected. But, again, not for 23.1. Both versions are configured with: ./configure --without-dbus --without-rsvg --without-sound \ --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-xft --without-pop I've tried with '-Q' and with 'LANG=C', but it doesn't matter. This issue was observed on two Fedora 10 and Fedora 11 systems. Dmitry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: X fonts handling in 23.1 [not found] ` <mailman.3580.1249050271.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2009-08-01 0:51 ` Tim X 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Tim X @ 2009-08-01 0:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru> writes: > Hello all, > > my ~/.Xdefaults contains: > > Emacs*font: -misc-* > > And 22.3 starts with the expected font. But 23.1 doesn't. > > Moreover, I can start 22.3 with '-fn fixed' and then do > (set-frame-font "-misc-*"), and it toggles the font > as expected. But, again, not for 23.1. > > Both versions are configured with: > > ./configure --without-dbus --without-rsvg --without-sound \ > --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-xft --without-pop > > I've tried with '-Q' and with 'LANG=C', but it doesn't matter. > > This issue was observed on two Fedora 10 and Fedora 11 systems. > Font handling in 23 is all new and supports antialiased fonts. Check the NEWS file for details. I found I had to add Emacs.fontBackend: xft to my .Xresources file in order to get fonts working correctly. This is on a Debian testing/unstable box. Why are you building with lucid rather than the default GTK? Also, why disable dbus support? Did the output from ./configure give anything useful? Given its a new release, I'd be inclined to build just using all defaults to start with and then see if that works and slowly remove what you don't want. This is also a good way to see how things have changed and then enable you to re-evaluate what is not required. For the last month or so, the commands I've used to build (from CVS) are ./configure prefix=/usr/local make bootstrap make install The font I'm using is -fn "DejaVu Sans Mono-14" and it works very nicely. HTH Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? [not found] ` <mailman.3561.1249026712.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2009-07-31 8:33 ` Anselm Helbig 2009-07-31 9:23 ` Peter Dyballa [not found] ` <mailman.3567.1249032229.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2009-08-02 16:12 ` Rugxulo 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Anselm Helbig @ 2009-07-31 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Hi! > Thank you. Emacs 23.1 on Mac OSX works. > But when I start emacs at terminal (instead of running Emacs.app), > emacs (in /usr/bin/emacs version 22) complains that the .elc are > compiled for version 23. > > Can you please tell me what can I do to fix this? The easy way is to also use emacs 23 in the terminal, /path/to/your/emacs -nw should do it. Or just fix your PATH environment variable so that your emacs 23 bin directory comes first. Otherwise you'd have to use different directories for different emacs version + one directory with the .el sources. You'd symlink your source files over to the directories for your different emacs versions and compile them there. This is more or less how debian's emacs packaging works when you have multiple emacsen installed. In your .emacs you'd to something like this: (add-to-list 'load-path (format "/path/to/emacs-lisp/emacs-%s" emacs-major-version)) But I'd rather use emacs 23 on the console as well. With the new multi-tty feature you should also be able to use the same instance for this, issue M-x server-start and then connect with `emacsclient -t'. I heard that multi-tty doesn't yet work well on OS X, though. HTH, Anselm -- Anselm Helbig mailto:anselm.helbig+news2009@googlemail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? 2009-07-31 8:33 ` How to speed up emacs start time? Anselm Helbig @ 2009-07-31 9:23 ` Peter Dyballa [not found] ` <mailman.3567.1249032229.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-07-31 9:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Anselm Helbig; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 31.07.2009 um 10:33 schrieb Anselm Helbig: > The easy way is to also use emacs 23 in the terminal, > /path/to/your/emacs -nw should do it. Which is /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs – and which has some problems with the command line options! -- Mit friedvollen Grüßen Pete One doesn't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. One expects them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. – Michael Shirley ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? [not found] ` <mailman.3567.1249032229.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2009-07-31 10:02 ` Anselm Helbig 2009-07-31 15:53 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Anselm Helbig @ 2009-07-31 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 535 bytes --] At Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:23:36 +0200, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote: > > > Am 31.07.2009 um 10:33 schrieb Anselm Helbig: > > > The easy way is to also use emacs 23 in the terminal, > > /path/to/your/emacs -nw should do it. > > > Which is /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs – and which has > some problems with the command line options! OK, then maybe you should rather not use Emacs at all but switch to Textmate. 8;-) *ducks-and-runs* -- Anselm Helbig mailto:anselm.helbig+news2009@googlemail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? 2009-07-31 10:02 ` Anselm Helbig @ 2009-07-31 15:53 ` Peter Dyballa 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2009-07-31 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Anselm Helbig; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 31.07.2009 um 12:02 schrieb Anselm Helbig: > OK, then maybe you should rather not use Emacs at all but switch to > Textmate. 8;-) > Or don't give so many... -- Mit friedvollen Grüßen Pete Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. – Albert Einstein ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: How to speed up emacs start time? [not found] ` <mailman.3561.1249026712.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2009-07-31 8:33 ` How to speed up emacs start time? Anselm Helbig @ 2009-08-02 16:12 ` Rugxulo 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Rugxulo @ 2009-08-02 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Hi, On Jul 31, 2:51 am, n179911 <n179...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you. Emacs 23.1 on Mac OSX works. > But when I start emacs at terminal (instead of running Emacs.app), > emacs (in /usr/bin/emacs version 22) complains that the .elc are > compiled for version 23. Surprisingly, I don't think anybody answered your question correctly yet. So here's my lame attempt .... Anyways, it's incompatible now due to changes in 23.1. You'll have to compile with 22, I suppose, which will still work with 23. (quoting from NEWS): "During byte-compilation, Emacs 23 uses `utf-8-emacs' to write files. As a result, byte-compiled files containing non-ASCII characters can't be read by earlier versions of Emacs. Files compiled by Emacs 20, 21, or 22 are loaded correctly as `emacs-mule' (whether or not they contain multibyte characters). This takes somewhat more time, so it may be worth recompiling existing .elc files which don't need to be shared with older Emacsen." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2009-08-02 16:12 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 10+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- [not found] <mailman.3539.1248999408.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2009-07-31 0:33 ` How to speed up emacs start time? Rafael 2009-07-31 7:51 ` n179911 2009-07-31 8:11 ` Jonatan Andersson 2009-07-31 8:29 ` X fonts handling in 23.1 Dmitry Antipov [not found] ` <mailman.3580.1249050271.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2009-08-01 0:51 ` Tim X [not found] ` <mailman.3561.1249026712.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2009-07-31 8:33 ` How to speed up emacs start time? Anselm Helbig 2009-07-31 9:23 ` Peter Dyballa [not found] ` <mailman.3567.1249032229.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2009-07-31 10:02 ` Anselm Helbig 2009-07-31 15:53 ` Peter Dyballa 2009-08-02 16:12 ` Rugxulo
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