From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4614: 23.1.50; tramp-ftp-file-name-handler: Recursive `require' for feature `ange-ftp' Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:43:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87bpkod24v.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <8763aykviq.fsf@escher.local.home> <87pr943awm.fsf@gmx.de> Reply-To: Stephen Berman , 4614@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1254578858 23952 80.91.229.12 (3 Oct 2009 14:07:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4614@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 03 16:07:30 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mu5Gi-0008Fg-GW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:07:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49749 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mu5Gh-0005Zl-9B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:07:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mu5GX-0005Xn-BW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mu5GR-0005Vh-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48632 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mu5GR-0005Ve-9q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:38796) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mu5GQ-0003tG-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n93E78NI028368; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 07:07:08 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n93Do669024964; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:50:06 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:50:06 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: steve@escher.local.home Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:50:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4614 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4614-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4614.125457740324023 (code B ref 4614); Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:50:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4614) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Oct 2009 13:43:23 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with SMTP id n93DhKTX024018 for <4614@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 06:43:22 -0700 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Oct 2009 13:43:15 -0000 Original-Received: from i59F56442.versanet.de (EHLO escher.local.home) [89.245.100.66] by mail.gmx.net (mp051) with SMTP; 03 Oct 2009 15:43:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/8+jEbrqv84nJ24dcxb7TspCf8WOF2HeLWOsDsVR BVJ1H5IVmEHW9C Original-Received: by escher.local.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43A7F1D192B; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:43:13 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87pr943awm.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:43:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:07:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31653 Archived-At: On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:43:53 +0200 Michael Albinus wrote: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Stephen Berman wrote: >> >>> Until sometime within the last few weeks (sorry, I can't narrow it down >>> more), the following (anonymized) code worked fine: >> >> Are you sure? It fails for me in the same way in both 22 and 23.1. >> (It seems you can require ange-ftp beforehand as a workaround.) > > Indeed. I've fixed this in tramp-ftp.el. Stephen, could you please > check, whether it works for you? I haven't updated yet to get your change, but I confirm the workaround works with emacs -Q on my current build. However, I just tried the code again with my init file on my current build and I cannot reproduce it now. After my init file loaded, I did `C-h v features' and found both ange-ftp and tramp-*, which would explain why it works. I don't know why it didn't work when I reported it (with the same initializations), but that failure happened in several separate Emacs sessions, on at least two different days. Perhaps I loaded some function that unloaded ange-ftp, ...or it's a heisenbug. Anyway, I'll update and try your fix, Michael. You can wait till I confirm it works to close the bug, but that might not be till tomorrow. But since it appears to be unreproducible, it's probably ok to close it now. Steve Berman