From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unable to close a bug in the tracker. Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:08:36 -0500 Message-ID: <87bpgxo5m3.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <87iqb5o7ie.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pr5d5xco.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263431395 5329 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2010 01:09:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 14 02:09:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NVEDb-0006fi-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:09:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39942 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVEDb-0007KM-TC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:09:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVECj-0006zG-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:08:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVECe-0006wN-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:08:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52900 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVECd-0006wK-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([66.146.206.141]:53826) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVECb-0005KY-F7; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:08:45 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34862 helo=kfogel-work ident=kfogel) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NVECY-0001jy-Ow; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:08:43 -0600 In-Reply-To: <87pr5d5xco.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:44:23 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119947 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: >Karl Fogel writes: >> For the love of Cthulhu, why are we using this monstrosity when there >> are so many other good trackers out there? > >Hm, is that really true? It seems more like there are so many other >_bad_ trackers out there. Yes, I believe it is really true. I've used a lot of trackers (as I'm sure you have), and none discourage me the way this one does. I'm sure there are user demographics for whom it is the right solution -- Debian Developers are probably one such! But Emacs developers are not. >The ones that do email well, screw up the web interface (or don't have >one). The ones that do the web well screw up the email interface (or >don't have one). Some screw both up. Blah blah... I've seen some that do both well (Launchpad is one, there may be others).