From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add function to make frame topmost? Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 12:43:04 +0900 Message-ID: <87bpcx7irb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4BDB5A6E.5060803@harpegolden.net> <4BDB8886.4050202@harpegolden.net> <4BDC6CE7.8060400@harpegolden.net> <4BDD2979.50001@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272858239 32009 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2010 03:43:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 03:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , Emacs-Devel devel , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , David De La Harpe Golden To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 03 05:43:57 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8mZY-00039y-J3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 05:43:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O8mZX-0001nd-Tt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O8mZS-0001nY-Ba for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37881 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O8mZR-0001nQ-9z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8mZP-0006F0-Sd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:36663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8mZP-0006Ev-HU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:43:47 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5CF1535AE; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:43:46 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1462C1A3624; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:43:05 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" a03421eb562b XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124465 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > For reminders I expect the elisp code normally would set topmost, What you expect is up to you, but I rather suspect that's not what I would want in most cases. Remember, IIUC, topmost means it sticks to the glass and gets in the way of other things, and must be dismissed (or worse, actively given a response) to get it out of the way. By contrast, normally popup windows are put on top, but simply selecting another window allows you to work in that window without specifically dismissing the reminder. That is the behavior I want for something called "reminder". On the one hand, I probably asked for it, so it should start on top. OTOH, now I've seen it, and even if I focus attention elsewhere for now, I might want to keep it around for later. In that case it needs to be easy to get it out of the way without dismissing it.