From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Evans Winner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:37:12 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87bpbgq32f.fsf@unm.edu> References: <87pr07qjio.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <878w6vq7ew.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871vcmhq79.fsf@wivenhoe.ul.ie> <580d5f23-e251-483f-9752-7e77b1ca2fb7@40g2000pry.googlegroups.com> <2a7dc148-e2cc-4681-9d8c-ccd1140aa6d7@j36g2000prj.googlegroups.com> <089883ee-0a63-4cb4-a0ec-d2fe4e71cc03@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <87wruco5yq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87wrubfd8p.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <848w6ndwn0.fsf@cs.bham.ac.uk> <87y6ekevet.fsf@rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291946106 9338 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2010 01:55:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 01:55:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 02:55:00 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQsCF-0001Gf-DM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 02:54:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47965 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQsBj-0002HJ-Pn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:54:23 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 4xmhsRr5Aeb6D0t2Thq8sQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ERmyGa8qrsZlGOO2gjZGHHjdRiw= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178850 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:23:47 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77159 Archived-At: ,------ Tim X wrote ------ | For example, how would most of the users feel if every | discussion regarding emacs development, even if | restricted to discussions that directly impact on | basic/core behavior (however that would be defined). was | posted to this list? I suspect that many would be | irritated as this is supposed to be an emacs help forum, | not a discussion forum for developments. Actually I think that would be a great idea -- I think that's exactly what ought to be done. I have read a number of posts on the devel list discussing the question of how to communicate with Emacs users about things like proposed changes to defaults. Most of the messages on the devel list would not be relevant here -- only a tiny fraction, and readers can always ignore threads that don't interest them. They could have subject lines that were the equivalent of "[RFC] Blah blah." I agree that there is a limit to what complaining about it after the fact can accomplish, but it is also true that most users can't realistically monitor such a high-traffic, and generally technical list like emacs-devel. Posting the occasional thread here about proposed changes might get useful feedback, since a lot of people do monitor gnu.emacs.help.