From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out? Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 08:35:47 +0900 Message-ID: <87bp7d1o6k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285976197 6683 80.91.229.12 (1 Oct 2010 23:36:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 23:36:37 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 02 01:36:36 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1p9C-0004XW-1P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:36:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47569 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1p91-0005hd-2F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55969 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P1p8v-0005hM-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:35:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1p8u-00055J-9o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:35:57 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:36757) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P1p8t-00055E-VB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:35:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1p8s-0004Ur-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:35:54 +0200 Original-Received: from 218.231.154.125.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.154.125]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:35:54 +0200 Original-Received: from miles by 218.231.154.125.eo.eaccess.ne.jp with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:35:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 218.231.154.125.eo.eaccess.ne.jp System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Cancel-Lock: sha1:f0Q7zLf4aQc149NbkuYMkxuPPBo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131204 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I actually think that there is no grep etc that handles this kind of >> files on w32. Is there on *nix? > > UTF-16 is the problem, and it (basically) doesn't exist on non-w32 > platforms. Yup. Though it seems MS is trying to fool/coerce the rest of the world into greater adoption of that abortion... (e.g. the C++0x standard, where u"xxx" now means UTF-16 text...) -Miles -- The trouble with most people is that they think with their hopes or fears or wishes rather than with their minds. -- Will Durant