From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Toby Speight Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen,gmane.linux.debian.devel.general,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs on a text console - please help me overcome the shock Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:00:25 +0100 Organization: none Message-ID: <87bovg5zhi.fsf@balti.ashgrove> References: <87ty99otg1.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314086450 18224 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2011 08:00:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 633652@bugs.debian.org, debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-X-From: bounce-debian-emacsen=debian-emacsen=m.gmane.org@lists.debian.org Tue Aug 23 10:00:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: debian-emacsen@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from liszt.debian.org ([82.195.75.100]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvlue-0004WT-Kv for debian-emacsen@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:00:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 5172513A4EEF; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=IMPRONONCABLE_2,LDOSUBSCRIBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC35A13A47C5 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:00:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.debian.org with policy bank en-lt X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, IMPRONONCABLE_2=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] autolearn=no Original-Received: from liszt.debian.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lists.debian.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 2525) with ESMTP id KyDLQQYTD3hm for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.plus.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (not verified)) by liszt.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1EB413A55B7; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:00:30 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8GAOVdU05UXeb0/2dsb2JhbABBmQyPHHeBQAEBBTo/EAshHgcPAQQyKodztzeGSASTGYUNhGqHBA Original-Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 23 Aug 2011 09:00:28 +0100 Original-Received: from [82.41.208.20] (helo=balti.ashgrove) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1QvluN-0002yr-QE; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:00:28 +0100 Original-Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux) X-Face: =?us-ascii?Q?T=2CQK^R4=5B'}UwA=22=5Dbf=3AYD$2mZF=5C1%}=5CFEd=2F=5D?= =?us-ascii?Q?Io%5T3=5B|~HUaR=3A!WOLCic7XE4H`cdc{f|=5D=5B4bL}yxhypxGygoO0n?= =?us-ascii?Q?TK1=28t-~7!uKq=3Fqf+U=3CI#D76MmTC%=2C=5D&=3F1JK0=3C$75=3A=3F?= =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FM=3Eqf=3Beq=2Cjx!=5C!s'e=2F=40$a6CKI=3EM8-?= In-Reply-To: <87ty99otg1.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Tue\, 23 Aug 2011 08\:35\:58 +0800") X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01 X-Rc-Spam: 2008-11-04_01 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3303 X-Loop: debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: debian-emacsen-request@lists.debian.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2697 gmane.linux.debian.devel.general:164781 gmane.emacs.help:82025 Archived-At: >>>>> "r" == rdiezmail-emacs writes: r> The console mode has been a shock. There is no mouse at all. I r> cannot navigate the menus as usual, menu-bar-open is weird and r> unfriendly. But, worst of all, some key combinations do not work r> well. 0> In article <87ty99otg1.fsf@jidanni.org>, 0> jidanni ("Jidanni") wrote: Jidanni> My question is how do all those high powered Debian Developers Jidanni> cope? Don't tell me they don't use emacs. Or not as root. Jidanni> Not even when administering their system? I certainly avoid running programs as large and extensible as emacs when I'm root! And, generally, all X11 programs fall into that category. As previously mentioned, Tramp is the ultimate saviour for editing files as many users on many systems. If you feel you must run as root, and you want to use a mouse with emacs in XTerm, then xterm-mouse-mode may help: /-------- | xterm-mouse-mode is an interactive autoloaded Lisp function in `xt-mouse'. | (xterm-mouse-mode &optional arg) | | Toggle XTerm mouse mode. | With prefix arg, turn XTerm mouse mode on if arg is positive, otherwise | turn it off. | | Turn it on to use Emacs mouse commands, and off to use xterm mouse | commands. This works in terminal emulators compatible with xterm. It | only works for simple uses of the mouse. Basically, only non-modified | single clicks are supported. When turned on, the normal xterm mouse | functionality for such clicks is still available by holding down the | SHIFT key while pressing the mouse button. \--------