From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87boqjsg2t.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <83ehvjs8t5.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqf3bcom.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83boqns68o.fsf@gnu.org> <87liprazr1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83wr9bqez3.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5tr9dwv.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87k45alwgb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87fwfyltm1.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87boqmlrma.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4e9j19.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83obumqa0v.fsf@gnu.org> <87ipktag2e.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8762gt9blm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83fwfwra0t.fsf@gnu.org> <8739bv91dl.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325686972 23158 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 14:22:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:22:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 15:22:48 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRjr-0002OK-Fx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:22:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59033 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRjq-00078X-PW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:22:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRjk-00078M-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:22:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRje-0003Jh-4P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:22:40 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:38820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRjd-0003JZ-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:22:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiRja-0002IK-7W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:22:30 +0100 Original-Received: from 225.red-79-147-11.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([79.147.11.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:22:30 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 225.red-79-147-11.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:22:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 225.red-79-147-11.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OorNbyJn7qC8VVH2hLGNyDpfaeQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147271 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:21:14 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > EZ> No, it is _not_ hard for the user to put the DLL in the correct > EZ> directory. It is hard for _us_, the programmers of package.el, to > EZ> select a fixed directory that would work for all users, so that we > EZ> could hardcode its absolute file name in the Emacs sources. An > EZ> entirely different issue. > > The addendum is "...and so GnuTLS is available to non-Emacs processes > too" which is something I did not consider carefully but your mention of > wget brought up. We don't want multiple versions of the GnuTLS DLL all > over the place, that could be worse for security than a single outdated > version. So the package.el install is not a good W32 solution to > deliver GnuTLS, after all. You are very wrong. For starters, MS Windows is not like most GNU/Linux distribution that use a system for keeping all installed software in sync. The wget example is a red herring. Sharing the gnutls dll is so wrong at some many levels that I wont start discussing it. [snip]