From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:28:17 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87boqh20ha.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87aa634st8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fwfvsgfv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4b4329.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hb0b3yoe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6ED011D5-E185-44C6-BB31-A445A4E5F83A@gmail.com> <87wr976otx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipkq6yy5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87boqi6tzz.fsf@linux-hvfx.site> <87ehve3ul8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lipl22xm.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325806123 3085 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2012 23:28:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 23:28:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 06 00:28:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwjf-0003qr-R4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:28:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53297 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwje-0007up-Td for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:28:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwjc-0007ue-0O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:28:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwja-0001a1-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:28:35 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:56623) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Riwja-0001Zq-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:28:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiwjY-0003o5-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:28:32 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:28:32 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:28:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:9JFdYPF57zGw69yDzmPvTsvd+ys= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147366 Archived-At: On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 23:43:29 +0100 Juanma Barranquero wrote: JB> 2012/1/5 Ted Zlatanov : >>> Not at all.  It's just a convenience based on our desire to take >>> responsibility for the security of the software we provide. JB> Starting with the fact that we shouldn't be providing that software in JB> the first place... JB> 2012/1/5 Ted Zlatanov : >> I mean Emacs.  Maybe you do too, I don't know anymore. JB> I meant the GnuTLS DLL, but the Emacs binary too, if possible. JB> Unfortunately, on Windows is almost a requirement. I meant Emacs, the software, not just its binary form. Forget the binaries; you and Lars are protesting a startup check that critical packages like GnuTLS are not out of date. I'm saying that's a convenience I think we should impose on our users at the cost of a single y/n/never_bug_me_again prompt. I can't think of a better way to notify them that an Emacs component is out of date and possibly compromising their security. I believe it's our responsibility to do this. Ted