From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
Cc: Dani Moncayo <dmoncayo@gmail.com>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:25:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bofbv7xe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a9uwumbv.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
Nix writes:
> (Even on mobile devices with touchscreens, where you swipe the text
> to move the text up, that operation is *still* called 'scrolling
> down'.)
Which drives me nuts, because it's the text that moves (and that's
true in editors, as well). For me it's "page down" but "scroll the
text up". "Scroll [nothing in particular but Do What I Mean dammit]
<direction>" is just uninterpretable to me. ;-)
I don't really care if you invert the names in Emacs, but I would
prefer using a verb other than "scroll" that strongly implies moving
the viewport (eg, "page") over a given buffer. I have less problems
with paging fractionally (eg, measured in lines) than with scrolling
viewports (reminds me of the door in Howell's Moving Castle, or if you
want a less fantastical illustration, the new paging look in Mac
Finder or Safari on an iPhone where the content changes as the
viewport scrolls).
From-the-Rick-Moen-Dept:but-maybe-that's-just-me-ly y'rs,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-06 1:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-04 14:10 Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Dani Moncayo
2012-11-04 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-04 15:00 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-04 17:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-04 17:30 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-04 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-04 17:35 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-04 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-04 19:10 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-04 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-04 20:01 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-05 11:07 ` Richard Stallman
2012-11-05 12:25 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-05 14:56 ` Nix
2012-11-05 15:39 ` Teemu Likonen
2012-11-07 8:12 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2012-11-13 9:05 ` Bastien
2012-11-13 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-05 3:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-11-05 7:27 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-05 12:44 ` Jambunathan K
2012-11-05 2:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-05 7:24 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-05 23:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-06 21:29 ` Daniel Hackney
2012-11-05 11:06 ` Richard Stallman
2012-11-05 15:00 ` Nix
2012-11-06 1:25 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2012-11-06 17:24 ` Adrian Robert
2012-11-06 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-06 17:50 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-06 19:14 ` John Yates
2012-11-05 18:05 ` Daniel Hackney
2012-11-06 1:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-11-07 16:31 ` Nix
2012-11-08 1:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-08 17:33 ` Nix
2012-11-08 18:14 ` Eli Barzilay
2012-11-08 18:18 ` Nix
2012-11-08 18:39 ` Eli Barzilay
2012-11-08 18:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-09 9:50 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-09 14:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-08 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-08 18:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-08 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-09 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2012-11-09 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-09 14:20 ` Nix
2012-11-09 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-09 20:24 ` Nix
2012-11-10 11:09 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 14:11 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 0:13 ` Richard Stallman
2012-11-10 7:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 11:09 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 11:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 11:48 ` Nix
2012-11-10 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 14:47 ` Nix
2012-11-10 14:10 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 18:50 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 11:10 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 14:12 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-09 9:51 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-09 14:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-10 11:05 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-08 7:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-11-08 11:12 ` Stephen Leake
2012-11-08 15:43 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-08 17:35 ` Nix
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-06 17:55 Dmitry Gutov
2012-11-07 0:53 ` Richard Stallman
2012-11-07 15:17 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-07 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-07 18:03 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-07 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-07 21:00 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-07 21:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-08 22:18 ` Daniel Hackney
2012-11-07 21:12 ` Mathias Dahl
2012-11-07 21:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-11-08 19:26 ` Bruce Korb
2012-11-13 9:07 ` Bastien
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[not found] ` <20635.16010.769769.433949@winooski.ccs.neu.edu>
2012-11-08 16:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-09 9:50 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-09 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-09 15:27 ` Eli Barzilay
2012-11-10 11:05 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 14:09 ` martin rudalics
2012-11-10 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-10 18:49 ` martin rudalics
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