From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,
'Sebastien Vauban'
<public-wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@plane.gmane.org>,
'Dmitry Gutov' <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: Unuseful keybindings
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:55:40 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bodk7by3.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2F9038F06F6B4465B50F3CD17D8FFD20@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:44:06 -0800")
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> >> I am a touch-typer. (Even) accessing `%', `(' keys slows me down
>> >> considerably. Using F-Keys for routine tasks is definitely beyond
>> >> question. As far as I am concerned, any discussion on F-Key is NA
>> >> or Don't Care for me.
>> >
>> > You don't care for your own use, but does that mean that
>> > you also do not care what Emacs binds by default for others?
>>
>> Yes, I do not care what Emacs does by default.
>
> Too bad for Emacs.
>
> So your input on questions of default behavior (like this one) is just
> irrelevant noise, I guess. No?
One of the first things that I do with a new Emacs is to always have it
maximized. (I am a single frame, single window user.) After a lot of
experimentation, this is how I achieve maximized frame on startup.
1. Start Emacs
2. Maximize the frame by hand.
3. Save window configuration (or is it frame configuration?) to a
register.
4. pp-eval the register.
5. Identify the height and width of the maximized frame.
6. Dump it in my .emacs.
This method works flawlessly.
Considering my own case, I will say,
Why not educate user and have him save his frame configuration in a
register and have the register value setq-ed persistently in his .emacs.
This way he can rely on register commands (which can be touch-typed) and
not rely on any bindings. My suggestion is no different from having
file short cuts in registers. I have, `C-x r j .' jumping to my .emacs.
Why should we care for a casual user? Why do tribes have initiation
ceremonies. Initiation is always an ordeal and but inevitable to
establish trust and earnestness.
That said, I will say vote for
leaving F-Keys undefined and ubound,
say for F1.
I am surprised that people are not
talking about F2. I accidentally
pressed it twice and what I get is a
weird looking email :-)
>> I am one of those users who doesn't rely on F-Keys much,
>> because reaching it is too bothersome.
>
> Me too. But that doesn't stop me from caring about what Emacs offers for
> others.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-23 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-18 13:00 Unuseful keybindings Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-18 13:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-12-18 14:48 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-18 16:58 ` Sam Steingold
2012-12-18 19:30 ` Mathias Dahl
2012-12-18 19:37 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-22 3:22 ` Chong Yidong
2012-12-22 4:39 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-22 5:09 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 21:24 ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-12-22 21:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-12-22 22:46 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-22 23:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-12-23 0:45 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 1:07 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-23 1:19 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-12-23 1:54 ` advertizing keyboard macros better [was: Unuseful keybindings] Drew Adams
2012-12-23 2:10 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-23 9:29 ` Unuseful keybindings Juri Linkov
2012-12-23 16:55 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-26 14:32 ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-12-26 22:21 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-27 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-23 14:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-12-23 14:57 ` Jambunathan K
2012-12-23 16:52 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 17:47 ` Jambunathan K
2012-12-23 18:44 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 19:36 ` Jambunathan K
2012-12-23 20:25 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2012-12-23 21:04 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-24 9:35 ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-24 13:02 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-24 14:13 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 17:03 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 17:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-12-23 18:51 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 20:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-12-23 21:13 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-24 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 21:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-12-24 9:39 ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-23 17:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-23 18:42 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 0:19 ` Mathias Dahl
2012-12-23 0:55 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-23 9:32 ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-23 10:37 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-23 10:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-12-23 11:22 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 22:28 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-22 7:42 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-22 8:23 ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-23 9:31 ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-24 10:29 ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-24 17:10 ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-29 5:57 ` Chong Yidong
2013-01-10 19:17 ` Sam Steingold
2013-01-10 19:13 ` Sam Steingold
2013-01-10 22:38 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-11 0:31 ` Juri Linkov
2013-01-11 1:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 9:58 ` Juri Linkov
2013-01-11 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-11 18:26 ` chad
2013-01-12 0:50 ` Juri Linkov
2013-01-12 10:03 ` Jan Djärv
2013-01-13 10:19 ` Juri Linkov
2013-01-13 11:19 ` Jan Djärv
2012-12-19 0:27 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-19 6:32 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-19 16:43 ` Leo
2012-12-18 13:40 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-18 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-18 17:49 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-12-18 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
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