From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 22:37:57 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87bo4hpn41.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <87ppsyu1l0.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87k3j6tye3.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377722420 15875 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2013 20:40:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:40:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 28 22:40:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VEmXK-00084Z-V5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 22:40:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38548 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VEmXK-0002GG-3B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:40:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:0kIrASoVXXYB6zR4VIN/YFizSM4= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200874 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93142 Archived-At: Marc Weber writes: >> It *is* Emacs or Vim. 100%. Why on earth would you use Word ... > To read .doc files which people may have sent you. Can't you extract the data somehow? That would require some OH work but it would still be one million times better than using Word. > I tried switching to Emacs for two weeks, but in the end it was > too hard, I was addicted to Vim (and my custom extensions) ... Yes, this is a very good point. If I switched to Vim, I would probably think Emacs is so much better. But that would be unfair, because I spent countless of nights customizing and extending Emacs to be exactly what I'd like it to be. So it is not Emacs, but MyEmacs (although the "My" in MySQL isn't a possessive pronoun but a female name). On the other hand, this is one of Emacs base pillars - that is is "the world's most customizable, extendable editor". (On the third hand, I did it so much I'm not letting Emacs off with all the credit :)) Really, if I switched to Vim, I would probably spend time making it behave like MyEmacs, which would be unproductive. The only scientific way would be to wipe out my whole Emacs experience from my brain and start anew with Vim. But relax, I'm not going to do that anytime soon. -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573