* Re: mail-yank-original problem [not found] <mailman.5242.1405033432.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2014-07-11 0:52 ` Emanuel Berg [not found] ` <87vbr48bhv.fsf_-_@skimble.plus.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2014-07-11 0:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com> writes: > VM is another Emacs mail program "Visual Mail". It's > a separate package not distributed with Emacs. These > days Emacs is configured to use "Message mode" for > composing emails and newsgroup replies. In the past > "Sendmail mode" was used, that's where > mail-yank-original comes from. OK! So perhaps I was right even though I didn't know that. But - I quick Googling and that should probably be "View Mail", right? "Visual Mail" is much more fun, so actually that was a disappointment. Here are some screenshots from View Mail: http://www.nongnu.org/viewmail/screenshots.html I think my Gnus looks much better: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/gnus/dumps/new/ By the way, is "RMAIL" (caps only) the correct designation for the Emacs module? Most often I think the normal way of writing names - like Michael - should be applied to software as well. UNIX, USENET, RMAIL, it doesn't look good. There is a shell tool called rmail (an "MTA->UUCP remote mail handle") but that's all lowercase so it shouldn't be a source of confusion (besides, I think rmail isn't on everyone's lips either). In the sendmail.el documentation they used Rmail. -- underground experts united ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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* Re: Colourful display? [was Re: mail-yank-original problem] [not found] ` <87vbr48bhv.fsf_-_@skimble.plus.com> @ 2014-07-11 12:42 ` Emanuel Berg 2014-07-12 20:12 ` Emanuel Berg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2014-07-11 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> writes: > How do you get your display so colourful please? What > theme are you using in the screenshot please? Ho-ho-ho, "theme"! :) :) No, those colors and everything are setup face-by-face, variable-by-variable. Make it work, by outworking the opposition... Look below. I might forget something but this should be almost all of it. The custom stuff is not really custom - just edit it by hand! The cool thing is that you can use eval-defun (bind it to a keystroke) to immediately see whatever change you do, on-screen - so it is very interactive, very nice for testing. The lame thing is that now and then custom will screw it up the indentation so don't bother making it neat with this solution. If you need to see it in context, everything should be here exactly as I use it: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/gnus/index.html If you are into colors I happen to have a page on that as well: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/cols/www/index.html - but note: the method of setting the colors (with sed) isn't going to work for you if you use X (very likely). However, the colors in the Elisp below ("red" etc.) might still work and you may like them. If not, just start working setting them one-by-one to what you like... OK, ready? ;; faces to be used in format lines (setq gnus-face-0 'bold) (setq gnus-face-1 'italic) (setq gnus-face-2 'bold-italic) (setq gnus-face-3 'gnus-cite-4) ;; group buffer (setq gnus-group-line-format "%0{%L%}%3=%2{%2~(ignore \"0\")T%}%6=%G%30=%1{%6~(ignore \"0\")y%}\n") ; group line (setq gnus-group-mode-line-format "%M%: %S") ; mode line ;; summary buffer (setq gnus-summary-line-format "%U %2{%R%} %I%0{%a%} %1{%s%}\n") ; message line (setq gnus-summary-mode-line-format "%G") ; mode line (custom-set-faces '(bold ((t (:bold t :foreground "blue")))) '(bold-italic ((t (:bold t :foreground "magenta")))) '(gnus-button ((t (:foreground "green" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-cite-1 ((t (:foreground "yellow" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-cite-2 ((t (:foreground "magenta" :bold t)))) '(gnus-cite-3 ((t (:foreground "green" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-cite-4 ((t (:foreground "red" :bold t)))) '(gnus-cite-attribution ((t (:foreground "yellow" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-mail-1 ((t (:foreground "yellow" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-mail-1-empty ((t (:foreground "yellow" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-mail-2 ((t (:foreground "cyan" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-mail-2-empty ((t (:foreground "cyan" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-mail-3 ((t (:foreground "white" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-mail-3-empty ((t (:foreground "white" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-mail-low ((t (:foreground "black" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-mail-low-empty ((t (:foreground "black" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-news-1 ((t (:foreground "cyan" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-news-1-empty ((t (:foreground "cyan" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-news-2 ((t (:foreground "cyan" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-news-2-empty ((t (:foreground "cyan" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-news-3 ((t (:foreground "blue" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-news-3-empty ((t (:foreground "blue" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-news-4 ((t (:foreground "blue" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-news-4-empty ((t (:foreground "blue" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-news-5 ((t (:foreground "green" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-news-5-empty ((t (:foreground "green" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-group-news-6 ((t (:foreground "blue" :bold t)))) '(gnus-group-news-6-empty ((t (:foreground "blue" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-summary-normal-ancient ((t (:foreground "blue" :background "black" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-summary-normal-read ((t (:foreground "yellow" :background "black" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-summary-normal-ticked ((t (:foreground "red" :background "black" :bold t)))) '(gnus-summary-selected ((t (:foreground "white" :background "blue" :bold nil)))) '(gnus-summary-selected ((t (:foreground "white" :background "blue" :bold nil)))) '(italic ((t (:bold nil :foreground "green")))) '(message-cited-text ((t (:foreground "green" :bold nil)))) '(message-header-cc ((t (:foreground "blue" :bold t)))) '(message-header-name ((t (:foreground "black" :bold t)))) '(message-header-newsgroups ((t (:foreground "yellow" :bold nil)))) '(message-header-other ((t (:foreground "white" :bold nil)))) '(message-header-subject ((t (:foreground "magenta" :bold t)))) '(message-header-to ((t (:foreground "green" :bold t)))) '(mm-uu-extract ((t (:background "black")))) '(widget-button ((t (:foreground "green" :bold nil)))) '(widget-field ((t (:foreground "black" :background "yellow")))) ) -- underground experts united ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Colourful display? [was Re: mail-yank-original problem] 2014-07-11 12:42 ` Colourful display? [was Re: mail-yank-original problem] Emanuel Berg @ 2014-07-12 20:12 ` Emanuel Berg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Emanuel Berg @ 2014-07-12 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes: > Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> writes: > >> How do you get your display so colourful please? >> What theme are you using in the screenshot please? > > Ho-ho-ho, "theme"! :) :) No, those colors and > everything are setup face-by-face, > variable-by-variable. Make it work, by outworking the > opposition... When I first read that ("theme"), I thought it was bizarre because it was so far from how it was, just installing or picking a theme. Come to think of it, my configuration could just as well be put in a `progn' and executed once, I suppose. That would make it a theme. Are there Gnus (and/or Emacs) themes around? Mine should be called the CRT theme. Either that, or "Mindfullness", like the tattoo of the Assassins, the Persian order that was put down in the 13th century by the Mongols. It has been the theme of my work in this project... By the way, it is no coincidence that a girl was the first ever to be interested in this. I once read a book with material on Pac-Man (the Japanese game, not Filipino fighter). When they made that game they did the monsters in different colors, just so it would possibly attract some female fighters! I don't know if it worked, though (?). I actually don't know why Emacs is so conservative color-wise. Colors are helpful (productive), but they also make you feel good, so you get even more productive. It is not coincidence that children are afraid of the dark, that people wear black at funerals, and that girls put red on their lips and blue over their eyes. The emotional response to black is negative, and to the lack of colors - indifference... Just do it as the kids and girls like it, it'll be the right way. Example - the buffer menu: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/buffer_menu.png Compare that to: (dired "~") Why do dired look so dull? A more colorful Emacs would be great PR. Colors should be just like font-lock in a programming mode. But... sometimes you have to stretch your imagination. Whenever there is a spare color, and nothing sensible (that can be formulated), it is better to just put it to use. Colors are a help to the intellect but they are very emotional at the same time. Best if they make sense but still good just to have. Oh, and yes. In the previous message on this, I forgot to include the mode line with the faces. Literally makes it or breaks it. '(mode-line ((t (:foreground "white" :background "blue" :bold t)))) '(mode-line-inactive ((t (:foreground "white" :background "red" :bold t)))) -- underground experts united ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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