From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Counting SLOC in Emacs Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:46:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87bnnqwd9c.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <877fyfk1qn.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <8761dzjvcl.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <874mtjjt31.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <871tonjpuw.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417254166 14380 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2014 09:42:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:42:46 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 29 10:42:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XueY3-0004h9-0W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:42:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47119 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XueY2-0008Cn-Ih for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 04:42:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XueXk-0008Bq-M6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 04:42:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XueXe-00048e-Gn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 04:42:20 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp207.alice.it ([82.57.200.103]:52247) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XueXe-00048S-6Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 04:42:14 -0500 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (79.51.120.239) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 54787DFC00290BC4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:42:13 +0100 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xuebj-0001Yx-4o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:46:27 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <871tonjpuw.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:00:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.103 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101288 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () Marcin Borkowski () Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:00:42 +0100 I'm planning to run a code reading seminar for some ambitious students at my faculty. I'm wondering whether it could be a good idea to study this;). (In fact, not really - at least not in the beginning - let them learn some more typical stuff before exposing young minds to Emacs Lisp with its peculiarities, like `interactive'. We'll start with Python and JS, though some Common Lisp is also planned.) That's like "teaching" a child to walk one leg, the first week, the other, the second, and together, only afterwards. Ugh; Not Recommended. Everything is peculiar in some respect. If you choose those of Emacs Lisp, your students may grind their teeth but they will eventually learn some self-respect (and maybe some love for parentheses :-D). =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlR5leMACgkQZwMiJEyAdQL2GwCbBZciLj/HxBzQiR4qqVs0ubMd 5MsAmwb4LubJPdr5O45VV3JIPBYnQPJT =X2tg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--