From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: intrusive changes Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:03:03 +0000 Message-ID: <87bnnmqsh4.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <87lhn7cfe0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87egszcd3i.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87h9xvavjm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874mtuc1hq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871torfjk8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sih7cjnn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcbqh08.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <87vblwn2mc.fsf@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417514630 18189 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2014 10:03:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:03:50 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 02 11:03:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XvkJ7-0002Vu-Tn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:03:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35869 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvkJ7-0003Pk-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 05:03:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54440) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvkIr-0003P4-Jm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 05:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvkIm-0004BS-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 05:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:49362) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvkIm-00047O-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 05:03:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=ESbaPySVw7mbZj5X4FnohzFOUQdRVXTEGptIIKKsF2E=; b=jqzSgNZvLOrqFp5LzDJYWGuQcK3dSS5XQ4Pubmgt73ePvxwgD+wExzeJzj85YnxuoSPjDw4s5yYs5cROQZXdOlm8F+wRiIVAeb+xhL2tKd/IUlAtZ23WEoMAo7vfOM647E2KZcXNFXIPwflQUtvgeHd9PYcszL6tG2KhjX/oSgQ=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvkIY-0004jp-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:03:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvkIR-0005sp-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:03:03 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:07:16 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178676 Archived-At: >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: >> Adding untested features without providing an easy way for the user >> to opt out is not a good idea, either. > Adding features to master is the way we get them tested in the first > place. That=E2=80=99s the point. And in this case, testing the feature resulted in #19152 being filed. Although indeed, providing options to disable new features is much more important for releases. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A