From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Removing rollback from VC mode - request for comment Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:42:56 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87bnn7dgwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141211092138.6D5F6C008E@snark.thyrsus.com> <87y4qcj2mq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87mw6sdetf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tx10iya1.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87iohgdarf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wq5wa8s7.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx0zsxq5.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418463813 31300 80.91.229.3 (13 Dec 2014 09:43:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:43:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 13 10:43:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzjER-0002gl-Vn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:43:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60717 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzjER-0000E0-IA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 04:43:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzjEJ-0000Dk-8q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 04:43:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzjED-0006ar-B3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 04:43:15 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58417) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzjED-0006al-5C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 04:43:09 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzjEB-0002Ey-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:43:07 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f49c01.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.156.1]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:43:07 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f49c01.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:43:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f49c01.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tyiv0ILWhYm/zCwpiPtMHC63TZo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179982 Archived-At: Uwe Brauer writes: > > I remember X-Symbol, but most of its feature set has been replaced by > > other things (e.g. input-methods, or \inputenc{utf8} which lets you use > > Do you mean \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > > > actual accented chars in the file). Are you referring to the replacement > > of "\alpha" with an "α" and things like that? > > Do you mean (set-input-method "TeX")? > > Last time I looked into that, my impression was this functionality > included less symbols than x-symbols. Besides sub and super indices were > not supported.[1] IIRC, X-Symbol has a really large array of input methods including completion, a "grid", and various forms of cycling through several symbols. The TeX input method is not at all helpful here since its purpose is getting a single character in your file when knowing the full TeX sequence which is pretty much the opposite of what X-Symbol does. > I really did not get it to work well in a LaTeX file: either > compilation failed or the symbols were displayed quite ugly in the > dvi/pdf file. The utf8x input encoding tends to fare somewhat better. > > These could be added via prettify-symbols-mode (which, like > > preview-latex relies on redisplay features rather than modifying the > > actual buffer's content). > > I am curious to see whether that would have performance issues on big > files Maybe doing overlays reasonably efficiently (like text properties are) would be sort of an idea after decades. -- David Kastrup