From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: zsh outside of Emacs Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:00:06 -0500 Message-ID: <87bnl2yqtl.fsf@gmail.com> References: <2015-02-07T12-48-06@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <87egq1fnsp.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87a90mipih.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423566021 5072 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 11:00:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:00:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 12:00:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8YF-0001NX-3j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 12:00:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39087 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8YE-0005FI-Ku for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:00:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34393) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8Y5-0005F7-9Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:00:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8Y4-0000Tt-AE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230]:41983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8Y4-0000Tm-6j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:00:08 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q200so13983059ykb.7 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:00:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=KHeGeamW8DU8ZS23bhi6xoA0Dx0JmSWMSabKjyz+z4M=; b=01zy8yLSJOe+1Rt56wPL69Nrf1F89zAa/DaoMdbFlfxJtfMeLZTAgIgUJiMKnXWzne GI+BYjL8n5r7i1wlXyiKU5tr3nOZhCptK+3+WKRa+uGw8oJWFhaQ3mpo3+1IYR9chcNi bFh+RjLXKs/5YcB0j0SeOArRX1Z/u41UD86Ph0cceJn46IMN4XDf+BYhVvtbe94JapUN sPuCiXyeDbkW56qErdm0orxzb83oy/jfXVTa9dpAIDhzTJLPttFTh4Fa8wGRoTUaj25j Nvw+OgdRLKzQa/X2otQh6TuO7b9ZxoC8uq9pfT0X3aZGzFvbb/EoFxBapchEvMrCtYg7 iLsw== X-Received: by 10.236.229.200 with SMTP id h68mr8349028yhq.90.1423566007585; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:00:07 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ([2601:0:a602:24aa:ee55:f9ff:feb5:5589]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u68sm9547230yhf.39.2015.02.10.03.00.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:00:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87a90mipih.fsf@debian.uxu> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:22:46 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102615 Archived-At: Emanuel puts it well; that sort of integrated interface and the ability to put emacs tools to use on my bash output has served me many, many times. It's hard for me to go back to a "dumb terminal" (to use the term ironically) now... Emanuel Berg writes: > Karl Voit writes: > >> Sorry, I meant what advantages do I get compared to >> a separate Terminal emulation running my GNU screen >> sessions? >> >> I don't see much difference between Alt-TAB + >> XOrg-copy&paste and C-x b + Emacs-copy&paste > > It is not only a matter of copy and paste back and > forth! If that is your only concern the whole system > is integrated as it is. > > No, if you have any data in an Emacs buffer, you can > immediately put all of Emacs to work on that data, > just as you can put all of Emacs to (re)produce it. > And this can be automatized big with no glue in > between. > > Now that sounded really advanced but it can be really > down to Earth things. You will experience the benefits > of an integrated interface with common input methods > and documentation/configuration very soon if you > didn't already.