From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
To: Glenn Brown <glennb@google.com>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Use of dedicated windows in gdb-mi.el
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:02:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bnkj192o.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+HJDHiX=1cQYdHTB_zPGVEJh89f=ADqF1PtXUCv2vywkhy+pg@mail.gmail.com> (Glenn Brown's message of "Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:56:07 -0800")
Hi Glenn,
Glenn Brown <glennb@google.com> writes:
> I applaud the efforts to make gdb-mode more friendly to novices.
>
> However, as as 20+ year users of 'M-x gdb' in emacs, I, too, find
> recent changes to the default 'M-x gdb' behavior frustrating and
> counter-productive for my own work: I miss inline output in the *gud*
> frame: I am daily annoyed at output opening a new window I didn't ask
> for, which I must manually close or 'Ctrl-x o' (other-window) past,
> since I am often in 'emacs -nw' (No mouse) on remote machines. I am
> annoyed that the new window-that-I-never-asked-for won't let me
> 'Ctrl-x b' (switch-to-buffer) to the buffer I actually want to see.
>
> I understand that novices tend to use print-debugging and the new
> input/output buffer can be useful to them. I appreciate that the
> default configuration should be optimized for novices doing native
> development in a windowed environment.
> But please understand that many professionals develop code where
> stdout-in-its-own-window is counter-productive. (In my daily use, the
> only output is from the testing framework I use.) Please understand
> that not everyone has access to a mouse when doing remote and/or
> embedded development.
>
> So please, gdb-mode maintainers, if you are going to change the
> default behaviour of gdb-mode, give us an easy way to get back access
> the old output-in-the-*gud*-buffer behavior, which is more productive
> for some of us professionals.
>
> Thanks for your consideration,
> --Glenn
I don't understand, I was the last one to touch gdb-mi.el in a year and
I didn't change any default behavior, only introduced a new defcustom
that changes the behavior if someone sets it. Are you referring to my
change?
Oleh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-24 18:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-24 17:56 Use of dedicated windows in gdb-mi.el Glenn Brown
2015-02-24 18:02 ` Oleh Krehel [this message]
2015-02-24 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-24 22:23 ` Paul Eggert
2015-02-25 3:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-25 3:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25 6:09 ` Glenn Brown
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-10 0:49 Barry OReilly
2015-02-10 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-06 18:02 Oleh Krehel
2015-02-06 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-06 19:14 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-06 21:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 9:19 ` Thibaut Verron
2015-02-09 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-09 14:50 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:42 ` martin rudalics
2015-02-09 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 15:57 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 17:22 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:11 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:26 ` Drew Adams
2015-02-09 18:39 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:48 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:44 ` Drew Adams
2015-02-09 19:50 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:09 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:33 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:46 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-10 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-10 3:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10 6:39 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-10 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:53 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:58 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:47 ` Oleh Krehel
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[not found] ` <<83zj8m9atc.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-02-09 20:42 ` Drew Adams
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