From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 21:35:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87bnhuc177.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <554C9356.5000204@gmail.com> <20150508125314086261755@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431113744 15726 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2015 19:35:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 19:35:44 +0000 (UTC) To: Vaidheeswaran C , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 08 21:35:35 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yqo3b-0002wt-2Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 21:35:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57375 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yqo3a-0001yI-ED for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 15:35:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yqo3Q-0001yD-Rc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 15:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yqo3M-0007FA-Vb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 15:35:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:56491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yqo3M-0007Et-Nb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2015 15:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4EA4FA047; Fri, 8 May 2015 21:35:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yNFhhQ7G4LLM; Fri, 8 May 2015 21:35:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [109.232.24.146]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B3474F607E; Fri, 8 May 2015 21:35:13 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <20150508125314086261755@bob.proulx.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:5e00:2:52::8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104309 Archived-At: On 2015-05-08, at 21:10, Bob Proulx wrote: > Vaidheeswaran C wrote: >> Shakthi Kannan wrote: >> > Vaidheeswaran C wrote: >> > | What would be the best way to learn Emacs. >> > >> > Start with the GNU Emacs tutorial. If you prefer a book, I'd recommend >> > "Learning GNU Emacs": >> > >> > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596006488.do >> >> Have you read that book? The book is old. Do you still think that I >> can use it. For example, does it talk about Org-mode etc. > > A student says that they really want to learn Calculus. They know > that Calculus is very powerful and can be used to solve many problems. > I suggest that they learn Arithmetic first. They respond, > "Arithmetic! Have you learned Arithmetic? Arithmetic is old. Should > I learn Arithmetic? For example, will Arithmetic talk about > Calculus?" Nice try;-). But this analogy is flawed: software, unlike mathematical theories, is subject to change. > I didn't learn Emacs from the book Learning GNU Emacs but I have it > and it is a good introduction. It is easier to learn the fundamentals > and then build upon them with more advanced concepts afterward. Well, I don't have the book, but I agree with the above. The tutorial and the first few chapters of the official manual are good for learning fundamentals. > Bob Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University