From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributors and maintainers Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:40:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87bnbscmiv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <83y4exe71v.fsf@gnu.org> <87zizcfzna.fsf@T420.taylan> <20151021.102719.485566340.wl@gnu.org> <871tcoehk2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87eggofmy2.fsf@T420.taylan> <83oafse1yg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445438789 16847 80.91.229.3 (21 Oct 2015 14:46:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?Q?=22Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1?= =?utf-8?Q?=2FKammer=22?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 21 16:46:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoueV-0000Q2-6f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:46:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51961 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoueU-0007Qw-HE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:46:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35097) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoueA-0007PJ-LE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:45:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zoue9-0003yU-Dk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:45:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zoue7-0003wy-Mp; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53431 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zoue5-0003XD-Qf; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FC9BF2B3F; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:40:56 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83oafse1yg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:22:15 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192287 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer) >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:03:33 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >>=20 >> I have to disagree, and offer an alternative analysis by someone who's >> not me and is quite a bit better at social issues than me. >>=20 >> The usual approach on emacs-devel when dealing with something they >> don't like is to come up with random arguments, ignore >> counter-arguments, and move goalposts around because getting >> convinced by arguments is not something you do on the internet. >>=20 >> From the glimpse I took, that's roughly what's happening there: >> They don't like the idea because gut feeling, so they nitpick >> irrelevancies and go off on tangents to support their gut feeling. > > I don't think things happen like that around here. Well, I thought that the problem perceived here would have rather been that the goalposts wouldn't budge than that they'd be moving around... --=20 David Kastrup