From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reftex.el autoloads Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:34:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87bn9wdh4m.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> References: <87h9jqo9a5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83wpsm9skk.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4d22c7f.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831tata1mg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449855290 20755 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2015 17:34:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Phillip Lord To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 11 18:34:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RaY-00061H-K3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:34:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48824 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RaS-00069q-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:34:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RaC-00069Z-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:34:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Ra8-0005oC-Vz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:34:16 -0500 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:52725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Ra8-0005nJ-Nr; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:34:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=4eqEd0vqLNQJs5a7PN+BNiquihyjRrVvDQnsBcOLeDY=; b=UMn0VARy8wGtMLEYYWnW2OocWYh+fuqgJz4rKE3YrGKVoQnXYEJZOQ7t2QJHWI+WUyon2DJOAxTRK6eE6KCd2c3eJqXbHj0R6tBl0fnniJPhYBjuEIMv7A1DXJfs0nBt; Original-Received: from ip4d1494ed.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.20.148.237] helo=isaac.fritz.box) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a7Ra1-0002hW-KF; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:34:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <831tata1mg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:24:55 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.45.97.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196131 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: >> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:03:32 +0000 >> >> So, quite a lot of files seem to set generated-autoload-file to >> loaddefs.el which seems a bit odd (since it's the default). > > Only in lisp/cedet/, I think. I'm guessing this is the result of > integrating CEDET. If you want the details, maybe the CEDET people > and/or Chong (which did most of the work) could tell you the reasons > for that. I suggest to look at Git logs and maybe ask them Or maybe > Glenn (CC'ed) remembers. If you don't set generated-autoload-file, your autoloads end up in the top-level loaddefs.el. The CEDET packages have their own loaddefs.el files underneath lisp/cedet: lisp/cedet/srecode/loaddefs.el lisp/cedet/semantic/loaddefs.el lisp/cedet/ede/loaddefs.el The reason for this is that those loaddefs.el autoload EIEIO classes with eieio-defclass-autoload. If we'd have those in the toplevel loaddefs.el, this would trigger loading EIEIO at startup. -David