From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Asynchronous DNS Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:35:22 +1100 Message-ID: <87bn7tjo9x.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87si1gx6wz.fsf@gnus.org> <86y4b5zvzt.fsf@gmail.com> <8760y9kwrk.fsf@gnus.org> <8760y7nag7.fsf@gnus.org> <83oabzzsjq.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuxazkfe.fsf@gnus.org> <83io25yeqk.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9hpnreg.fsf@gnus.org> <83y4b0wi7m.fsf@gnu.org> <87si17evk6.fsf@gnus.org> <83twlnvcz2.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb63obm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87r3gqmg6g.fsf@gnus.org> <83egcqtfnm.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454808984 29100 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2016 01:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 01:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 07 02:36:15 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aSEGs-0007A8-SX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 02:36:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58225 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSEGs-000619-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSEGc-00060z-6e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:36:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSEGY-0004GM-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSEGY-0004GD-4C; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 20:35:54 -0500 Original-Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aSEG6-0002nM-Kw; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 02:35:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83egcqtfnm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 06 Feb 2016 10:19:09 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1aSEG6-0002nM-Kw MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1455413729.79@9d4kPOHfuR++L4BIknhMyw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199431 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen >> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 18:49:43 +1100 >> >> I kinda think we've gotten as far as we're going to get in this >> discussion, and that it's time to merge. > > I'm sorry, but I disagree. I think the APIs that expect a fully > functional process object should wait for the DNS resolution to > complete, before they do anything. I don't know what you mean by that. That is exactly what the API does. >> There should be no impact on any existing use. It should be 100% >> backward compatible. > > But it isn't, as was demonstrated by ERC. And it cannot be 100% > backward compatible, unless the above-mentioned waiting is added to > the affected APIs. Again, it is not demonstrated by ERC. ERC works fine with the new refactoring. I'm beginning to suspect that you're kinda just skimming my messages. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no