From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22595: 25.1.50; Wishlist: There should be a way to list timers Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:16:39 +1100 Message-ID: <87bn7qarzs.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87oabrybgk.fsf@gnus.org> <83egcnqge3.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2mekaye.fsf@gnus.org> <87h9hiht4w.fsf@acer.localhost.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455027513 11718 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2016 14:18:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22595@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ingo Lohmar Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 15:18:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aT97U-0001Te-Bd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:18:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56484 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT97T-0004nF-ET for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:18:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT97M-0004mm-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:18:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT97C-0002Zr-L3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aT97C-0002Zn-A8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:18:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aT97C-0004hN-6u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:18:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 14:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22595 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 22595-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22595.145502746318035 (code B ref 22595); Tue, 09 Feb 2016 14:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22595) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2016 14:17:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32819 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aT96t-0004gp-Ge for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:17:43 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aT96s-0004gi-64 for 22595@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:17:42 -0500 Original-Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aT95v-0005gT-Cl; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:16:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h9hiht4w.fsf@acer.localhost.com> (Ingo Lohmar's message of "Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:10:07 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1aT95v-0005gT-Cl MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1455632204.61177@LZC8sHAitSYZ8E6FYLWXXg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112799 Archived-At: Ingo Lohmar writes: > Why is this a good idea at all? Timers are always an implementation > detail, not a user-level feature, as far as I am concerned. We neither > have a UI for working with all overlays or text properties of a buffer, > have we? Reductio ad absurdum isn't very useful as an argumentation technique. I have often wanted to examine (and cancel) certain timers that are out of control. Inspecting them without a buffer like this isn't easy. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no