From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:52:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87bn7kqyys.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87mvr9wxqz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87io1xwq1e.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87vb5wvzfz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87io1wt4cc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737syoima.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871t8iu277.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83d1s28kvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3gis7sm.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83twle71xy.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9hcr2g3.fsf@mbork.pl> <838u2o5zcv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1s0r0p4.fsf@mbork.pl> <8360xs5wsd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455386031 10015 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2016 17:53:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 13 18:53:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeO5-0001qY-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:53:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeO5-0004PP-2g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 12:53:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeO0-0004P7-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 12:53:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeNz-000505-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 12:53:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:49145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUeNu-0004zX-T3; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 12:53:31 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92A99D2002; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:53:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iPXwY4xu80WS; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:52:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [109.232.24.28]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4FE99D2001; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:52:59 +0100 (CET) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.13; emacs 25.1.50.2 In-reply-to: <8360xs5wsd.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 195.110.48.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199892 Archived-At: On 2016-02-13, at 18:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Marcin Borkowski >> Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:15:35 +0100 >>=20 >> >> What about, say "a" and "=D0=B0"? ;-) >> > >> > They don't look identical, and in any case, it should be clear they >> > should never match, except when specifically searching for so-called >> > "confusables". >>=20 >> Well, they look *exactly* identical on my Emacs. I even C-x C-=3D'd a= few >> times - still no difference. And there are more pairs like this. >>=20 >> All this means it is way more complex than most people imagine. > > Of course it is. But the important thing is Emacs does TRT with this > (and other) aspects of this complexity. Of course you're right. (Though there exist rare cases where looking for one /should/ find the other one.) What I wanted to say is that this is a counterexample to this sentence: > identically looking text should match, or else users will kill us. Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University