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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Human-readable file sorting
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:26:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bn7c3yms.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2r3g8p2gz.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Fri,  19 Feb 2016 17:58:20 -0800")

John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> So what do all y'all think?
>
> It looks like GNU ls support "human sorting" using -v, so you can always use
> C-u s to add this flag, or change your default set of flags to use it.
>
> Whether it needs to be the dired sorting default... I don't see a strong need
> for that, given that it can be customized.

Well, it's not just dired.  For instance, if you say `C-x f file<TAB>',
you get a help buffer listing all the files that match.  This should
also be sorted in a human readable fashion.  When you push `n' in an
image mode buffer, it takes you to the next file, and that should also
be the next, as humans see it.

This stuff is all over Emacs, and it's either because the functions rely
on the sorting from `directory-files', or because they call
`string-lessp' explicitly.

The practical way to implement this is to provide a `file-string-lessp'
function that can be configured to sort the way the user prefers,
defaulting to human readable sorting, and then we adjust
`directory-files' and other file-ey commands to call that instead of
`string-lessp'.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-20  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-20  1:15 Human-readable file sorting Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20  1:58 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-20  2:26   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2016-02-20  2:33     ` John Wiegley
2016-02-20  6:00       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20  6:12         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-20  7:15           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20  8:14             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-22 18:09             ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-02-22 21:31               ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-23  6:13                 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-23  8:32                   ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-24  5:39                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-02-20  6:17         ` John Wiegley
2016-02-20  7:11           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20  9:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 10:24           ` martin rudalics
2016-02-20 10:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 17:30         ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-02-20 18:25           ` Drew Adams
2016-02-20  6:16       ` dired and ls (was: Human-readable file sorting) Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20  6:19         ` dired and ls John Wiegley
2016-02-20  7:25           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20  8:01             ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23  7:15               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2016-02-23 16:34                 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-20  9:57         ` dired and ls (was: Human-readable file sorting) Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 19:21           ` dired and ls John Wiegley
2016-02-20 21:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 21:24               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-21  2:10           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20  8:53     ` Human-readable file sorting Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 11:32       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 11:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 11:45           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 12:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21  2:14               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 23:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22  2:58                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 18:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 18:13                       ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2016-02-22 19:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 17:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-23 18:00                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-24  1:51                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 13:43                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-24 13:41                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-20 14:23             ` Alexis
2016-02-20 14:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21  2:18               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21  9:30                 ` Alexis
2016-02-21 10:07                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 19:27                   ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-21 20:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-20 15:35       ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2016-02-20 15:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 12:45           ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-20 16:03         ` Herring, Davis
2016-02-20 16:23           ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-21  2:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 12:45         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-21  2:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-20 14:32 ` Richard Stallman

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