From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8180: 24.0.50; verbose, confusing y-or-n-p prompts in `find-file-no-select' Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:14:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87bn4uqbty.fsf@gnus.org> References: <435FEA4267C54CB2B558397723E571FE@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461838525 22432 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2016 10:15:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8180@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 28 12:15:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyV-0004NT-GL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:15:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47793 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyU-0007OF-GT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:15:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37755) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyQ-0007IK-2R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyM-0000Tr-1n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:15:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyL-0000Tn-UJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:15:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyL-0006A6-QV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:15:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8180.146183849623659 (code B ref 8180); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 10:14:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51227 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyG-00069X-GX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:14:56 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aviyE-00069N-Ii for 8180@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 06:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aviy9-0000CZ-IV; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:14:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <435FEA4267C54CB2B558397723E571FE@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 5 Mar 2011 07:16:35 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117023 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > There are several `y-or-n-p' prompts in `find-file-no-select' that are > very long (e.g. 6 lines!) and confusing. Some other (alternative) > user interaction should be found for this. Either just a short prompt > or, if it is important to convey some background info, then also pop > up an informative window for that. But do not try to provide such > info in the prompt. [...] > "The file maybe-a-very-long-file-name.jpg is already visited literally, > meaning no coding system decoding, format conversion, or local variables. > You have asked to visit it normally, > but Emacs can only visit a file in one way at a time. > > Do you want to revisit the file normally now? (y or n) " > > That is _ridiculously_ long and confusing. It is horribly user > unfriendly. `find-file-noselect' is now filled to the gills with such > gobbledygook prompts, each more twisted and verbose than the next. `find-file-no-select' doesn't exist, and `find-file-noselect' isn't a command... Are you referring to `find-file-literally'? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no