From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:19:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87bmygfjso.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <20160916203414.25203.87032@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87wph96cto.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831szh3iq4.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvi5spl9.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83mvi51y3b.fsf@gnu.org> <87instslxu.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83inst1vut.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg3ekjz2.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83vawpx677.fsf@gnu.org> <87h989ixxd.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83mvi1ww6m.fsf@gnu.org> <87wph5fw0w.fsf@russet.org.uk> <838ttlwodt.fsf@gnu.org> <878ttl3342.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8360opwjs2.fsf@gnu.org> <8760oosrn8.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83shrsvj3g.fsf@gnu.org> <86twc8r8gw.fsf@realize.ch> <83r37cvfo6.fsf@gnu.org> <86oa2gr7jb.fsf@realize.ch> <86k2d4r5y5.fsf@realize.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476890432 1783 195.159.176.226 (19 Oct 2016 15:20:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:20:32 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alain Schneble Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 19 17:20:27 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwsej-00048n-Ty for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:19:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49166 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwsem-0005Ki-2y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:19:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwsee-0005JV-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:19:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwsed-0002DB-Cr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:19:44 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:52755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwseX-0002Av-JZ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:19:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=zGWxXfoxO7owHrjI06ArdtcCEUFlMh4aT5WJl72/LYw=; b=lRyBCYn6ZrGTTflgMVhgeXlCrJ OmnvNiX51MIMJx7J4PswzKKeVgkMLP0Fw6/N/QuePKnxNIuVXiRWqQLqA2JHkGdZCZsE/cp4kSIHu jckeYEKRJLQMibgVBkZH0j25t5D2r6LeM58w6x06d7nUln4ZTLEmaFIKBCs/em1ZR7hStORBwXmqk unQd/2ur2e8l7GzWVSAtkAhYroOSEfpVRo+6R+viPjUkXWx6BYF1vG+spBVFYBKvpAj+zK4A7eopG yehK+yEmOJ1bPSpiGdib8bfIVhsWP0h8HVmrbByKubrCNb37W23VtJ0ILKLdLZF13JA/SLNOci6bM +an0eV4A==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-60.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.60]:59774 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1bwseW-003HX4-BO; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:19:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86k2d4r5y5.fsf@realize.ch> (Alain Schneble's message of "Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:25:38 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 31.216.48.48 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208481 Archived-At: Alain Schneble writes: > Alain Schneble writes: >> Exactly, I see it the same way. I also think it's as a separate issue >> (that after all could also be handled by each package separately if it >> needs to solve it at all). > > To elaborate what I wrote in parenthesis in the last sentence above: In > this situation, the new package could still (provide > 'the-deleted-feature) or register a function to be called when loading > such deprecated file using after-load-alist or somesuch. The former > could make a (require 'the-deleted-feature) a "noop", the latter could > raise an error, or whatever. And there are for sure other feasible > approaches that could be implemented by a package if required. Just to clear, you are suggesting that when moving from org-html to ox-html, the org developers should have had a file called org-html.el like so: (error "org-html is now deprecated") (provide 'org-html) Yes, that would work, but does not provide a good solution to my mind. I really must stop this. We are going around in circles. I will write this discussion up, and add it to the README on my branch. Phil