From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: raman <raman@google.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:25:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bmouvu5z.fsf@jane> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p917eziakql.fsf@raman-glaptop2>
On 2017-07-08, at 19:42, raman <raman@google.com> wrote:
> For simple vc tasks -- and that typically equates to many things one
> traditionally did in all VC systems, vc-git is what I use --- examples:
FWIW, I sometimes use VC with Mecurial, and the experience is so bad
that the _sole reason_ I switched to Git was the existence of Magit.
The main annoyance is that if I edit _more than one file_, and press C-x
v v, instead of committing my all changes (or at least asking me about
it), it only commits the changes in the currently edited file. Several
times I made an incomplete commit because of that. I tried to find an
option to override this, but to no avail. _That alone_ renders VC
totally unusable, annoying, broken and actively harmful for me.
Now that I think of it, I could have written a bug report (or even try
to implement this myself). But you know what? I just switched to Git
and started to use Magit, because it is so much better.
Now, vc-dir seems similar to magit-status. But it has one _huge_
drawback: it requires me to press RET each time after I invoke it. (Why
would I want to invoke vc-dir for some other directory than the one I'm
in anyway? And in such rare cases, C-u would handle that much better.)
Now that I think of it, I could write a trivial wrapper for that (and
I might actually do it, for the sake of legacy Mercurial projects
I have). But you know what? If you use Git, then why even bother when
Magit exists?
I guess that Emacs' VC with distributed VCSs is fundamentally broken,
since it was really designed with RCS and its likes in mind, and
imposing that onto DVCSs is awkward. I suspect that situation (with VC)
is better now than a few years ago (e.g., AFAIK pushing/pulling is now
implemented), but I haven't looked into it too much.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I consider VC's utility (with DVCSs) to
be zero _at best_.
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
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Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-05 15:29 In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit (was: comparing code on different branches) John Yates
2017-07-05 16:15 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-05 16:22 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Óscar Fuentes
2017-07-05 16:27 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-05 16:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-05 18:15 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-07-05 23:03 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-06 0:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-06 1:46 ` Glenn Morris
2017-07-06 2:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-10 9:26 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-06 2:29 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-14 14:34 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-07-16 1:51 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-06 1:50 ` Glenn Morris
2017-07-06 14:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-06 14:47 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-06 17:11 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-07-06 16:02 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-06 16:52 ` Ken Manheimer
2017-07-07 18:23 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-07 18:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-07 22:08 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-07 22:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-08 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 9:05 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-08 10:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 20:34 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-09 2:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 9:28 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 13:15 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-11 11:45 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 17:04 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 20:52 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-10 9:30 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 17:02 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 9:26 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 12:47 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-10 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 9:40 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-11 22:56 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 23:27 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 16:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-10 23:30 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 4:20 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-11 11:48 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-06 23:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-07 18:27 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-07 18:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-08 17:01 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-08 17:42 ` raman
2017-07-08 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 20:57 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-08 22:57 ` John Yates
2017-07-09 0:04 ` raman
2017-07-09 9:25 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2017-07-09 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-10 1:01 ` In defense of VC [was: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit] Juliusz Chroboczek
2017-07-10 7:09 ` Michael Albinus
2017-07-10 8:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-10 8:47 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2017-07-10 8:59 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-10 16:28 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-10 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-16 18:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-16 19:09 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-16 19:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-10 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 4:15 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-11 11:48 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 14:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-11 14:27 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2017-07-11 22:56 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-11 16:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-11 7:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-11 7:26 ` Michael Albinus
2017-07-11 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 9:29 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 16:32 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-10 23:30 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-11 4:14 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-06 15:24 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-10 9:26 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-10 13:09 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-11 11:45 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-05 16:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-05 18:37 ` Ingo Lohmar
2017-07-05 18:14 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit (was: comparing code on different branches) Noam Postavsky
2017-07-06 5:06 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2017-07-06 8:46 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Toon Claes
2017-07-07 1:38 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-07-07 8:16 ` Trying out GitLab (was Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit) Nicolas Petton
2017-07-07 8:27 ` Tino Calancha
2017-07-07 8:29 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-07-07 12:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-08 11:02 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-07-08 11:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-08 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 12:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-08 21:02 ` Phillip Lord
2017-07-08 23:19 ` Tim Cross
2017-07-08 12:43 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-07-08 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-08 11:29 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-07 16:55 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-07-07 18:23 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Richard Stallman
2017-07-07 18:23 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit (was: comparing code on different branches) Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 16:13 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2017-07-14 1:20 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-14 18:24 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2017-07-14 3:31 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Stefan Monnier
2017-07-14 18:09 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2017-07-14 7:14 ` git-handler.el (was: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit) Michael Albinus
2017-07-14 17:57 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2017-08-11 10:26 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-08-12 10:48 ` git-handler.el Jonas Bernoulli
2017-08-12 12:01 ` git-handler.el Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-12 17:26 ` git-handler.el Jonas Bernoulli
2017-08-12 17:43 ` git-handler.el Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-12 19:32 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-08-12 18:22 ` git-handler.el John Wiegley
2017-08-12 18:28 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-08-12 19:52 ` git-handler.el Jonas Bernoulli
2017-08-13 9:26 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-08-12 19:17 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-08-12 19:46 ` git-handler.el Yuri Khan
2017-08-13 9:14 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-08-13 10:08 ` git-handler.el Yuri Khan
2017-08-13 14:31 ` git-handler.el Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-13 15:08 ` git-handler.el Yuri Khan
2017-08-13 15:26 ` git-handler.el Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-14 16:42 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-08-14 16:40 ` git-handler.el Michael Albinus
2017-07-10 16:16 ` In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit (was: comparing code on different branches) Filipe Silva
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