From: Jay Kamat <jaygkamat@gmail.com>
To: "R. Diez" <rdiezmail-emacs@yahoo.de>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Separate area at the top for a serious tab bar
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 00:48:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bmbz8o9f.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <376678535.4221832.1529478419186@mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
R. Diez writes:
> I just do not want to live without one. Therefore, I am a long-time user of
> tabbar.el . I have installed several little enhancements and hacked together
> some dodgy Lisp code over the years. It is a problematic solution that still
> frustrates me on a regular basis.
As someone who has come from other editors (originally eclipse, intellij, and
atom), and has thought the exact same thing (that a tabbar is a necessity for
an editor), I know how you feel. I would highly reccomend giving the buffer
based workflow a try, however. Once I tried seriously dropping tabs, I can't
imagine going back to a tabbed workflow.
> I am no Lisp expert, but I am sure that many smarter people would quickly
> write a better tab bar package if given a good chance. My bet is that
> something is holding them back.
tabbar.el has many issues with it implementation wise. I think that if someone
did a full audit of it and cleaned out the bugs and fixed the performance
issues, it would handle a lot nicer, even without any changes on the Emacs
side. I think that most of the bugs in the issue tracker are fixable purely in
elisp:
https://github.com/dholm/tabbar/issues
> The reason may be the lack of a separate area for a tab bar. If I remember
> correctly, the current tabbar.el steals an area designed for displaying a
> ruler. This stealing causes problems, because the handling of that area is
> not flexible enough and yields trouble here and there. It is not a good
> basis to build upon.
See `tabbar-local-mode', which I found works well even when the header line is
used. See it's docstring for more information on that. When I used tabbar, I
just turned off the header for all the modes I used and used tabbar-local-mode
when that option wasn't available.
I actually wrote a blog post about my feelings on this topic earlier, maybe
you would find some interesting ideas in it:
http://jgkamat.gitlab.io/blog/emacs-tabs.html
My tabbar configuration is here; if you decide to continue using tabbar, you
may find some useful things in it:
https://gitlab.com/jgkamat/dotfiles/blob/13da6a341688e5fb1e74d6521dc9a3a941dd0cde/emacs/.emacs.d/lisp/tabbar-tweaks.el
-Jay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-25 4:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <376678535.4221832.1529478419186.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-06-20 7:06 ` Separate area at the top for a serious tab bar R. Diez
2018-06-20 12:16 ` martin rudalics
2018-06-20 12:55 ` Van L
2018-06-27 8:44 ` R. Diez
2018-06-27 9:17 ` martin rudalics
2018-06-20 14:09 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-22 5:51 ` Van L
2018-06-20 16:32 ` Teemu Likonen
2018-06-24 18:31 ` Grant Rettke
2018-06-25 4:48 ` Jay Kamat [this message]
2018-06-25 6:24 ` R. Diez
2018-06-25 9:28 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-25 10:20 ` R. Diez
2018-06-25 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-25 14:56 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-06-25 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-26 18:55 ` Bob Proulx
2018-06-26 19:01 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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