From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: hw@adminart.net, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some developement questions
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:07:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bm9d9zs9.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1fwInk-0003Xc-Le@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 01 Sep 2018 23:11:48 -0400")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> The existing TUTORIAL file is designed so that you try out the commands
> while editing TUTORIAL itself.
>
> I get the impression that the proposed new tutorial doesn't do that.
>
> What are the intended advantages of the new one?
Yeah. Most of that stuff is "move cursor back and forward". It's too
slow for most new users and freaks them out. While it was well intended
at the time, I think, it is now a negative feature of the tutorial.
I would like to add automation which would work better. So where it says
"create a new frame", it would be nice to have a click button which
actually does this for you.
The advantage of dumping the "you can edit this file" stuff is that a)
the code gets much simpler, because you don't have to store the users
copy and b) we should be able to use some rich text visualisation to put
images, screenshots as well as the clickable buttons described in the
last paragraph.
At the moment, I have done none of this more intelligent stuff however.
Phil
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2018-08-17 20:49 ` Some developement questions Ergus
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2018-08-22 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-08-23 8:26 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-08-23 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 1:00 ` hw
2018-08-24 9:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25 0:45 ` Ergus
2018-08-26 12:46 ` hw
2018-08-25 1:31 ` hw
2018-08-25 7:35 ` Alexis
2018-08-25 10:34 ` Ergus
2018-08-25 16:11 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-08-25 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25 20:34 ` Ergus
2018-08-26 2:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-26 1:24 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-08-25 20:50 ` Ergus
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2018-08-26 22:51 ` hw
2018-08-27 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-28 20:42 ` hw
2018-08-29 6:59 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-29 20:10 ` hw
2018-08-31 13:16 ` Michael Albinus
2018-09-01 17:53 ` hw
2018-09-03 13:35 ` Michael Albinus
2018-09-04 14:06 ` hw
2018-08-29 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-29 20:52 ` hw
2018-08-29 22:12 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-08-30 23:49 ` hw
2018-09-03 18:56 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-04 14:16 ` hw
2018-09-04 19:47 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-05 20:36 ` hw
2018-09-06 1:33 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-06 5:16 ` Drew Adams
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2018-09-06 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-06 18:15 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-07 7:18 ` hw
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2018-09-07 21:27 ` hw
2018-09-10 12:29 ` Filipp Gunbin
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2018-09-02 20:42 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
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2018-08-26 20:41 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-27 2:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 22:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-27 17:11 ` Filipp Gunbin
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2018-08-27 4:59 ` hw
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2018-08-27 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-28 21:26 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-29 15:39 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-01 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-02 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
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2018-09-04 15:20 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-04 13:07 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
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2018-09-07 10:26 ` Phil Sainty
2018-09-07 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
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2018-09-07 16:00 ` Drew Adams
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2018-09-08 5:13 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-08 13:02 ` hw
2018-09-08 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-10 13:52 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-09 6:07 ` Richard Stallman
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2018-09-09 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-09 17:18 ` Ergus
2018-09-10 11:59 ` hw
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2018-09-10 19:48 ` hw
2018-09-11 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-10 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-07 8:11 ` hw
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2018-09-07 6:39 ` Richard Stallman
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