From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32893: GNU wishes Debian not split out .els anymore Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 08:28:36 +0800 Message-ID: <87bm8dfayz.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> References: <87r2h9ahig.fsf@tethera.net> <87tvm5pye2.fsf@jidanni.org> <87zhvxgx1y.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1538440028 4898 195.159.176.226 (2 Oct 2018 00:27:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 00:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 32893@debbugs.gnu.org To: 910021@bugs.debian.org, control@bugs.debian.org, Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 02 02:27:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g78Wk-00019E-LB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2018 02:27:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41251 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g78Yr-0007Hc-4F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g78Yj-0007HL-OT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:29:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g78Yg-0001ne-Kl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g78Yg-0001nW-GT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g78Yg-0003vZ-9b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87h8i5rg3k.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 00:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32893 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo unreproducible wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 32893-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32893.153844012315071 (code B ref 32893); Tue, 02 Oct 2018 00:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32893) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2018 00:28:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g78YN-0003v1-M6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:28:43 -0400 Original-Received: from pop.dreamhost.com ([64.90.62.162]:49730 helo=pdx1-sub0-mail-a27.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g78YL-0003us-NN for 32893@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 20:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a27.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a27.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4027FAA3; Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=xmiUB0GA5WpAhKnmNsBWG7OZXxE=; b=aJJy+o+eFyvYf FxecH9ElqHui98tC+UNrNtmulattxALYeoSWzcSgYM4QXwgzpvk1nXjmrpTpAZ7T eUj9bhAQ1PmMQTkEvOiBWZ2sgwpzsdeNwoaQwhpmH8ao9aak7bznMybpEiMopESQ FFhDg5ivTLtBAw5D3I4MjgC4tVUBps= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-33-220.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.33.220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a27.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F5837FAB4; Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:28:39 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a27 X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a27 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:150893 Archived-At: reopen 910021 retitle 910021 GNU wishes Debian not split out .els anymore thanks >>>>> "GM" == Glenn Morris writes: GM> Emacs does not support installing without its .el files and makes no GM> provision for it. It's something downstream distributions added back GM> when disk space was an issue (I guess?). They get to keep all the pieces GM> from the resulting breakage. :) GM> Personally I think it should this separation should just go away. GM> PS Red Hat got rid of this split years ago, and I would encourage Debian GM> to follow suit; ref https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1151652