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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 33258@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#33258: inhibit-select-window
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 23:30:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bm731abq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5BE00E99.1020003@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 05 Nov 2018 10:34:17 +0100")

>> One of the many examples is 'C-x v =' (vc-diff) where
>> the need is only to look at the diffs, but not to operate
>> on the *vc-diff* buffer in its window.
>
> Is this particular behavior caused by the
>
>       ;; Display the buffer, but at the end because it can change point.
>       (pop-to-buffer (current-buffer))

Yes, and rightfully so.

> While not selecting the window might not be a great issue, not making
> its buffer current is.  We would have to check each and every call of
> 'pop-to-buffer' as to whether subsequent code relies on the fact that
> it made the buffer current.  This is not fathomable IMO.

This feature is intended only for user customization in display-buffer-alist,
not in the args of pop-to-buffer.  It makes no sense for a programmer
to use (inhibit-select-window . t) in the args of pop-to-buffer when
a programmer can simply replace pop-to-buffer with a display-buffer call.

However, if an user is annoyed by always selecting a window of
a displayed buffer by default, and such customization doesn't
cause a bad side effect by not making the displayed buffer the current,
and this is true in 99% cases, then we should be proud to make
the users happier.

>> OTOH, when a command uses display-buffer that doesn't select a window,
>> then the same alist entry with a different value or a new entry e.g.
>> '(select-window . t)' could be used to force selecting the window.
>> This could be implemented by using the same code from pop-to-buffer
>> and adding it to display-buffer functions.
>
> This would be possible.  Such an entry would have to be called
> something like 'force-select-window' and could be applied by both
> users and programs for one soberingly simple reason: A Lisp program
> can never rely upon 'display-buffer' to _not_ select the chosen window
> - popping up a new frame may implicitly select the window at any time.

force-select-window looks good, also possible is one of these names:

  (pop-to-buffer . t)
or
  (pop-up-window . t)

as a reference to the related feature.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-05 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 21:17 bug#33258: inhibit-select-window Juri Linkov
2018-11-05  9:34 ` martin rudalics
2018-11-05 21:30   ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2018-11-06  8:45     ` martin rudalics
2018-11-06 21:59       ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-07  9:22         ` martin rudalics
2018-11-07 21:32           ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-08  8:52             ` martin rudalics
2018-11-08 21:56               ` Juri Linkov

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