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From: "Štěpán Němec" <stepnem@gmail.com>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Cc: tastytea <tastytea@tastytea.de>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	36837@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36837: 26.2; whitespace-mode: whitespace-line-column is not set to local fill-column
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:45:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87blx7cpwf.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <857e7v4bb2.fsf@gmail.com>

On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 15:28:01 -0400
Noam Postavsky wrote:

> It sounds like you are confusing defcustom settings with file-local
> variable settings.  Those are two very different things.  At any rate,
> there is no "library being loaded" here.
>
> See also (info "(emacs) File Variables")

I'm not sure what you mean.

For me there are two issues here: the particular case described in this
bug report, and the (related) general issue of ordering modes and
file-local variable settings inside `run-mode-hooks'.

You seem to be responding to the latter part of what I wrote. Whether a
library will need to be loaded or not depends on whether the feature
required by a particular hook or variable value (e.g. in case of "eval"
file-local variables) is already provided or not.

In this particular case, if you follow OP's recipe (emacs -Q),
`whitespace-mode' is autoloaded, so the whitespace library will be
loaded only at the point the hook is run.

Really, isn't this how we all customize all kinds of variables? In your
init file you have (setq some-var some-value) (or the equivalent
customize forms if you're into that) even before the relevant feature is
provided (by loading the library), and the defvar form in the pertinent
library will of course not clobber the user-specified value. Unless I'm
missing something, it works the same way if you `hack-local-variables'
before loading the whitespace.el library in this particular case.

-- 
Štěpán





  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29  9:17 bug#36837: 26.2; whitespace-mode: whitespace-line-column is not set to local fill-column tastytea
2019-08-02 14:57 ` Štěpán Němec
2019-08-02 15:04   ` Andreas Schwab
2019-08-02 15:11     ` Štěpán Němec
2019-08-02 15:15       ` Andreas Schwab
2019-08-02 15:22         ` Štěpán Němec
2019-08-02 15:33           ` Andreas Schwab
2019-08-02 15:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-02 15:30         ` Štěpán Němec
2019-08-02 18:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-02 19:10             ` Štěpán Němec
2019-08-02 19:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-02 19:28       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-02 19:45         ` Štěpán Němec [this message]
2019-08-02 21:14           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-02 21:50             ` Štěpán Němec
2019-08-02 21:54               ` Andreas Schwab
2019-08-03  7:50   ` tastytea
2019-08-03  9:23     ` Štěpán Němec
2020-02-24 19:56       ` Noam Postavsky
2020-02-24 20:12         ` Štěpán Němec
2020-02-26  0:38           ` Noam Postavsky
2020-02-28  5:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-28  8:14               ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-02  3:58                 ` Noam Postavsky

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