From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: evaluating numbers Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 22:40:42 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87bltbpsat.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <875zjw2emg.fsf@gmx.net> <618B38D9-CD34-4200-8CA1-1A6B0922A83A@traduction-libre.org> <871ruk2d3f.fsf@gmx.net> <3C929D7B-1C10-4713-9EDA-55C80FC36AD8@traduction-libre.org> <835zjvg385.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgmyd6rw.fsf@gnu.org> <835zjucwbz.fsf@gnu.org> <628A3663-BDD3-47C5-B4F4-E260FD900691@traduction-libre.org> <83o8xla50f.fsf@gnu.org> <8336ex9sow.fsf@gnu.org> <4836980E-C425-466C-BB86-5E962C4B3F96@traduction-libre.org> <83zhgy7qxq.fsf@gnu.org> <83lfsi5z1s.fsf@gnu.org> <83imnm480f.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="38646"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 16 22:09:02 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iW5JV-0009tv-T1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 22:09:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50084 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iW5JU-0008Md-OZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:09:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55788) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iW5IR-0007zh-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:07:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iW5IQ-0001L9-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:07:55 -0500 Original-Received: from blue.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.20]:26397) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iW5IO-0001Ib-0X; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:07:52 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AFEE08CA; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-83-20.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.83.20]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D0C13E09A2; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:07:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:07:50 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Name-Wiry: 483aacfd3124a0fa_1573938470119_2897195042 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1573938470119:1007341992 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1573938470119 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B0C7F702; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 13:07:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=linkov.net; bh=EiElEn ksVAc7rpMOZPPXafF4nDc=; b=HNpwx7i+SsyyWcmwfPpA4GsAFtpbMjcBrB3cqY 8pah49hWfcyyc8zQZBtGtn3ZBZEZBKOiJo6Jhs3dMCubHfKcV7kG2XEEA8SvDQif CkEHtaHhSLdTQGArmJnw6i1z9cJ+J1BPMCJIrTXDsBJjQYRDeq9isChQnwqtX0qp 7CdZk= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-102-1.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.102.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F34317F700; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 13:07:40 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a75 In-Reply-To: <83imnm480f.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Nov 2019 20:39:44 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 23.83.212.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242263 Archived-At: > The right way of doing this is "C-u C-x =3D". And if we think that thi= s > shows way too much info, I'm OK with modifying "C-x =3D" to show the > character name as an optional feature. These are commands that were > specifically designed to describe text; doing that as part of integer > evaluation is too general for that. There are other cases where displaying Unicode names might be needed in the echo area, e.g. sometimes using query-replace to strip accents messes the prompt with combining accent characters stacked on each other that enlarges the minibuffer window: Query replace regexp (default [=CC=81=CC=80=CC=82] =E2=86=92 ): Wouldn't such prompt be more readable? Query replace regexp (default [?\N{COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT}] =E2=86=92 )= :