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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:48:52 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Troubled-Tank: 55c5c4612bade80a_1582732132606_3120088369 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1582732132605:3838043518 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1582732132605 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3974AAFF37 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2020 07:48:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=gdr2V8mpgFUEI5PbvTMPH8Ow+2w=; b=g8eT33lU7got8de4 3qVWbn9G73l2oIWeagrOxiZkfP1L0LDUmFeWc+zP6amBnIZEUkZlqQHxLsexc0f7 QN4RXK3OoqcrdkCqHGKpqkdYB8y6xhvBnYe+WhsPzJlHv5B98AXFrPsEsdvwkj6g ISFac5aCYf6fuQUnVsRS6DJMVqs= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (220-140-5-101.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [220.140.5.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C26D182267 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2020 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a65 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrleeggdekvdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehsthgrtghkohhvvghrfhhlohifrdgtohhmpdhgihhthhhusgdrtghomhenucfkphepvddvtddrudegtddrhedruddtudenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepvddvtddrudegtddrhedruddtuddprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopegsuhhgqdhgnhhu qdgvmhgrtghssehgnhhurdhorhhg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176503 Archived-At: On(info "(emacs) Init Rebinding") at the end, please have the page "admit" that their is no way to unbind a key from a local map. That would save the user a lot of guessing. Currently the page just ends in an example of binding a key in a local map. Users need to know it is in fact impossible to unbind them. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22834506/how-to-unset-a-keybinding-in-a-map-locally-to-a-mode https://github.com/jwiegley/use-package/issues/103 emacs-version "26.3"