From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Another Emacs incompatibilty Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 23:22:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87blj955nh.fsf@ebih.ebihd> References: <86r1s648dc.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86wo1xz4lt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <83imdhgsqo.fsf@gnu.org> <86blj9xc2z.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34793"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:dGu5JXn6TDp5ugWhzhQsX7nJw4g= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 23:23:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7mbR-0008xj-32 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 23:23:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34376 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7mbQ-0008Oo-4a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:23:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7mal-0008Lo-2F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:22:55 -0400 Original-Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:37298 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7mai-000748-UQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:22:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7mad-000842-0B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 23:22:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/17 10:21:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123699 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > So the only really safe way to avoid introducing > new problems is to leave the code 100% unchanged. Fixing one bug can introduce another bug. But to be fair, I think everyone understands that, and no one suggests the code should never change one ... bit. I'm an "under the hood maximalist" myself. As long as I can configure the interface [see dump 1] to be minimalist and clutter free I don't mind having all kinds of huge software libraries below, invisible. They might come handy one day and until then they don't bother anyone. [1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/pimgs/comp/mail.png -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal