From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jack Kamm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Emacs User Survey 2020 Results Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:24:47 -0800 Message-ID: <87blf2alcg.fsf@gmail.com> References: <27f2aad6-2c1e-1127-bce6-5e96a241db56@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29090"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: Jean Louis , Adrien Brochard Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 09 20:39:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kn5JA-0007T6-5j for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 20:39:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kn5J9-0006DI-78 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:39:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kn48y-00008K-Tr for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 13:24:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-x102b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::102b]:33738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kn48x-000510-60 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 13:24:52 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x102b.google.com with SMTP id p21so1039283pjv.0 for ; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:24:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=MNopr0j8OBDjunDT6mXkqJV4doguJi2g8YVczWjNs6E=; b=QhIk1SfxS4ePxlUi37e5ZJ5xzFrQhc5dVvtMM2BDqf5c/2J+wAspjTzEPTkOwdp1cP Zn729W7OFF7mh1sBsXuTAHPzUJvCSCN+fFM8tBf3b8w7HQ5mC6EJl7dUDOYD2U+ooSu8 9xS3QVEULH1rdQDPggMSJ4ERc/C1vRwBdxnfatV0DZAADQ2bLZRwD2xHDYxGECLZ0qxu 0aOo6Gu+TWCem84DnXru7vfS32OLobqHoI82EDsnk4e4Ie8FaALnopNblfGm4deKdFYk ZAf02krpk1ISXpKk8UYolXMzQWc/wyIu/dPwlxTWo8HKENvt2QlIi6N6OkSJFxGF7YoF 6bMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=MNopr0j8OBDjunDT6mXkqJV4doguJi2g8YVczWjNs6E=; b=ccMwm3ck4yByAMHspXBJF155v4Oq0JGLuwGtlXTocKGf3u+sYjElerwQcBmn8eayYY NebfGoUZwjomWYLIWjtUhDr4kmZdR4u2ePdEm1q1i6mtJHPA9wVMl2uz5ChrFwKeB2fr whjbV/HSPAJ1lc+Tc5oIO8BKQnXkTxu5cCPCaKh8rBAN8S53vtN/4qWeXEE/bCtWnhiU flUUti4DbD9YD4eaBwiITE+KJkCIU6eDI10iU86qicMUp4DcxMt7jnCLHilPVD/XhPhX ypdpwNw2lLrKLBz19efsMFAde1SdOdn7lWtlLvUdHRR6T9qt08ixhcFImVpooxjtaTe9 QatQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533FcxUEYWgRiTODwbJT/0KTmNTq6BGpN63Ud1a54Vqync13POtc NNEU/JIk0trrQ/ze1mIipnk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy400QfV5qfKJjvEH1QD1PeZ521zQdtFolH7QFLNlgsqIdfyFgZX6SvWlA5U4m6whvsKPkObA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4b07:: with SMTP id g7mr2077691pjh.0.1607538289243; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:24:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (199-83-220-90.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net. [199.83.220.90]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g16sm3108051pfb.201.2020.12.09.10.24.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:24:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102b; envelope-from=jackkamm@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:459 Archived-At: > Number one critic to you is that you drive people who use free > software to non-free software. You maybe have to research why Emacs > came to be Emacs and why is it named GNU Emacs. There are reasons for > that. I cannot be soft-hearted on that. When you call it "Emacs > Survey" why not make it in the spirit of Emacs as free software and > stop promoting non-free proprietary program such as Matlab. GNU Emacs matplotlib is not matlab. It is Python.