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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264362 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Similarly, you may mark some commands so they're just never available to > `M-x`. This could apply to some major and minor modes which are only > meant to be used "internally", or to commands which only work when > provided with a mouse event, or ... Yup -- and from menus. We have some commands that don't make sense outside of a menu context, and have had bug reports about them because people have discovered them via `M-x TAB' and then complained when they don't work. What would the syntax for marking these commands be? Perhaps a `declare' form would be the best thing here? These commands are a lot rarer than normal mode-specific commands (by several orders of magnitude, I think), so if we go with (command foo-mode "p") for the normal case, then perhaps it doesn't make sense to clutter up that simple syntax with something for this thing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no